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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @scottalanmiller No really, again NJ is not a bad place to live...

      I lived there. Can't fool me again.

      You will find the same issues that plague our whole nation and world anywhere you go... sad reality

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @dbeato
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @scottalanmiller No really, again NJ is not a bad place to live...

        I lived there. Can't fool me again.

        You will find the same issues that plague our whole nation and world anywhere you go... sad reality

        You need to get out of your shell if you think that.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @scottalanmiller No really, again NJ is not a bad place to live...

          I lived there. Can't fool me again.

          You will find the same issues that plague our whole nation and world anywhere you go... sad reality

          You need to get out of your shell if you think that.

          Coming from the Dominican Republic and Haiti I am pretty sure I have gotten out of my shell.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dbeato
            last edited by

            @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @JaredBusch said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @scottalanmiller No really, again NJ is not a bad place to live...

            I lived there. Can't fool me again.

            You will find the same issues that plague our whole nation and world anywhere you go... sad reality

            You need to get out of your shell if you think that.

            Coming from the Dominican Republic and Haiti I am pretty sure I have gotten out of my shell.

            Yeah... but you went to NJ. Out of the frying pan, into the fire, as they say 🙂

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            • coliverC
              coliver @dbeato
              last edited by

              @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @scottalanmiller No really, again NJ is not a bad place to live...

              I lived there. Can't fool me again.

              You will find the same issues that plague our whole nation and world anywhere you go... sad reality

              Hahaha.

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @JaredBusch said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @dbeato said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @scottalanmiller No really, again NJ is not a bad place to live...

                I lived there. Can't fool me again.

                You will find the same issues that plague our whole nation and world anywhere you go... sad reality

                You need to get out of your shell if you think that.

                Coming from the Dominican Republic and Haiti I am pretty sure I have gotten out of my shell.

                Yeah... but you went to NJ. Out of the frying pan, into the fire, as they say 🙂

                But for now no more NJ comments from me 😉

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  Hopefully easy question for you all: Looking at a couple jobs currently, wanting to get an idea of the salary range I should be looking at.

                  Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                  Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                  These are both current openings at the company my brother-in-law is working at, so hopefully a good reference to get in.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                    Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                    UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

                    Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Most important thing is that it is not NJ.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        Most important thing is that it is not NJ.

                        Too true

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                          😆 Don't tell my extended family, ha!

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                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                            Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                            UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

                            Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                            How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @NerdyDad
                              last edited by travisdh1

                              @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                              Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                              UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

                              Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                              How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

                              I'm actually looking for that right now. I'll know for sure once I talk to my family after they get home tonight, that 3 hour time lag can be just slightly annoying.

                              Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least 😕

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller LOL 🙂

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                                • NerdyDadN
                                  NerdyDad @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                                  Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                                  UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

                                  Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                                  How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

                                  I'm actually looking for that right now. I'll know for sure once I talk to my family after they get home tonight, that 3 hour time lag can be just slightly annoying.

                                  For sure.

                                  Around here, $85k/year would make for a nice salary in the DFW area, but also know that some areas can get pretty expensive for common essentials, such as rent or electricity, etc.

                                  For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                                    😆 Don't tell my extended family, ha!

                                    I'm sure that they already know.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @NerdyDad
                                      last edited by

                                      @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                                      Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                                      UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

                                      Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                                      How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

                                      I'm actually looking for that right now. I'll know for sure once I talk to my family after they get home tonight, that 3 hour time lag can be just slightly annoying.

                                      For sure.

                                      Around here, $85k/year would make for a nice salary in the DFW area, but also know that some areas can get pretty expensive for common essentials, such as rent or electricity, etc.

                                      For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.

                                      While these are definitely to good indicators, personally I've moved almost exclusively to the cost of housing. How much will a cost/apt cost in the area you want to be in? That is what helps set your baseline. That and taxes.

                                      A gallon of gasoline might be $1/gal more in NYC, and milk might be $0.50/gal more, but that doesn't even come close to telling you that the average person can't live in a nice part of town because a shit whole in the nice part of town cost half a mil to start. 😉

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        A gallon of gasoline might be $1/gal more in NYC, and milk might be $0.50/gal more, but that doesn't even come close to telling you that the average person can't live in a nice part of town because a shit whole in the nice part of town cost half a mil to start. 😉

                                        Actually it does way more than you think. It's going purely by the cost of housing that makes people think NYC is so expensive when in reality, it's not nearly as bad as you think that it is. Going purely by the cost of housing is a terrible indicator.

                                        Cost of commuting in NYC is generally dirt cheap, for example. And food is often cheap. It costs very little more to live in NYC than it does in most of the US. More, yes, but not as much as Minnesota, for example.

                                        It makes NYC seem crazy expensive when people who live there know that it is a surprisingly affordable city, all things considered.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                                          last edited by

                                          @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.

                                          but you also have to consider if you even need to drive. NYC, for example, you don't get a car. That's enormous. Imagine the difference in the cost of living if there was no cost for gas, no car payments, no need for a garage, no insurance costs, etc. That's normally a giant factor in other parts of the country.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least 😕

                                            I forgot to tell you. I own part of a house around the corner from you now.

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