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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @IRJ
      last edited by

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

      I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

      I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

      It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @wirestyle22
        last edited by

        @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

        I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

        I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

        It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

        That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

          I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

          I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

          It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

          That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

          $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

            I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

            I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

            It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

            That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

            $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

            I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @IRJ
              last edited by

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

              I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

              I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

              It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

              That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

              $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

              I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

              I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                I am guessing your area might be similar?

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                  I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                  I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                  It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                  That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                  $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                  I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                  I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                  I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                  I am guessing your area might be similar?

                  Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                    I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                    I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                    It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                    That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                    $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                    I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                    I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                    I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                    I am guessing your area might be similar?

                    Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

                    What would you commute be?

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                      I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                      I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                      It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                      That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                      $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                      I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                      I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                      I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                      I am guessing your area might be similar?

                      Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

                      What would you commute be?

                      If I were to commute every day, around an hour each way. Depending where I find something, I'd be moving closer to work tho. Right now I'm about halfway in between, which makes for a nice big area I can physically get to interviews in.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

                        LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

                        Maybe if you don't know the area....

                        Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

                        One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k

                        I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.

                        Well, apparently I'll have some time on my hands. If you want someone to clean it up and do some basic upgrades on the place....

                        Thanks. It's in good shape though and my cousin is moving in.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          I would have to make double in Northern Virginia just be where I was at here in the Orlando area.

                          Sure, but that's the most expensive single place in the country.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                            I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                            I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                            It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                            No, it's bad. I've lived there.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                              I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                              I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                              It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                              That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                              $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                              I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                              That's like here in Dallas. Nice places within walking distance of my house for $800 (was just looking for my dad last week.) If you are willing to be more than a few blocks from SAM, you can be a lot cheaper, too. That's just "on my street" prices.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                                I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                                I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                                It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                                That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                                $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                                I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                                I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                                I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                                I am guessing your area might be similar?

                                That's the kicker. It's way more tech than Tennessee in those kinds of areas, but same general problem.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                  Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                  I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                  But then you'd have to live in Florida...

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                    Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                    I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                    But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                    That's the biggest problem.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                      Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                      I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                      But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                      That's the biggest problem.

                                      Better develop a taste for bath salts

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                        Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                        I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                        But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                        That's the biggest problem.

                                        Better develop a taste for bath salts

                                        More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

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                                        • GreyG
                                          Grey @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                          Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                          I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                          But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                          That's the biggest problem.

                                          Better develop a taste for bath salts

                                          More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

                                          NJ is just as bad

                                          Nothing short of a guaranteed mil/yr with a golden parachute contract would make me move to NJ. That place is an armpit, and I've been to El Paso.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @Grey
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                                            @Grey said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                            Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                            I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                            But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                            That's the biggest problem.

                                            Better develop a taste for bath salts

                                            More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

                                            NJ is just as bad

                                            Nothing short of a guaranteed mil/yr with a golden parachute contract would make me move to NJ. That place is an armpit, and I've been to El Paso.

                                            It's the asshole of america imo

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