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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch So you are saying Eaton would be the solution correct? I am assuming you would not recommend a 750 VA from Eaton on this specific situation?

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @dbeato
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        @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

        @JaredBusch So you are saying Eaton would be the solution correct? I am assuming you would not recommend a 750 VA from Eaton on this specific situation?

        I trust Eaton hardware over APC any day.

        But even a brand new APC unit would likely not have these problems here. They typicaly last a yearish before having issues.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @dbeato
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          @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

          @JaredBusch So you are saying Eaton would be the solution correct? I am assuming you would not recommend a 750 VA from Eaton on this specific situation?

          But are you talking about this: http://powerquality.eaton.com/3S750.aspx?cx=3?

          I would never recommend it for anything.

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          • dbeatoD
            dbeato @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

            would likely not have these problems here. They

            I am actually buying 35 Eaton battery backups this month so it is good to hear on that. I am replacing some APCs here.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @dbeato
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              @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

              @JaredBusch said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

              would likely not have these problems here. They

              I am actually buying 35 Eaton battery backups this month so it is good to hear on that. I am replacing some APCs here.

              I would only buy the 5S or better series.
              http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/5S.aspx?cx=3

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch Good to know, let me check them out.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @dbeato
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                  @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                  @JaredBusch Good to know, let me check them out.

                  I guess if you honestly do not care about the user, the 3 series is ok. PC, monitor, and desk phone only things on it.

                  Just consider it a glorified surge protector that hold power for a minute, not a battery backup.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch But the 5S is not much different in price so using a 3S is of not benefit when price is the same...

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dbeato
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                      @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                      @JaredBusch But the 5S is not much different in price so using a 3S is of not benefit when price is the same...

                      Voltage regulation is the biggest thing IMO.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch Yes, that is big.

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                        • guyinpvG
                          guyinpv
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                          I assume voltage regulation is the root of my issue then. The laser printer caused "something" that the battery is not designed or quick enough to handle.

                          The only weird thing is that it doesn't happen most of the time. About once in every 50 prints maybe more.

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                          • Mike DavisM
                            Mike Davis
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                            To troubleshoot, if you get a voltmeter, make sure to use an old analog one. The voltage dip may be too quick for a digital one to detect. With a good analog one, you can watch the needle drop for a second if there is a quick dip.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                              @guyinpv said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                              I assume voltage regulation is the root of my issue then. The laser printer caused "something" that the battery is not designed or quick enough to handle.

                              The only weird thing is that it doesn't happen most of the time. About once in every 50 prints maybe more.

                              That's my guess.

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                              • guyinpvG
                                guyinpv
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                                Well it happened again.

                                Ordered an Eaton 5S700. Might as well give it a shot.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
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                                  Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                    Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                                    Right. Isn't that in UPS 101?

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
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                                      Boom that still holds true today

                                      http://www.apc.com/us/en/faqs/FA158812/

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                        @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                        Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                                        Right. Isn't that in UPS 101?

                                        Yeah. I am surprised everyone is trying to recommend a solution instead of telling him it isnt recommended and for good reason. When losing power, generally a printer is the last thing you worry about.

                                        If you must have an emergency printer, I would recommend a high speed inkjet.

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                                        • DanpD
                                          Danp @IRJ
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                                          @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                          Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                                          He's isn't. The printer is plugged directly into the wall, but it's on the same circuit as the UPS.

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                                          • guyinpvG
                                            guyinpv
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                                            I have scientific proof some people respond to threads without reading anything but the last one or two posts.

                                            The printer is not even on the same cord or wall socket as my computer/UPS, but it still causes a brownout. It trips my Back-UPS ES 550 but not a Back-UPS Pro 700 I have in the same room for other stuff.

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