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    Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

      @scottalanmiller you got to be fuck kidding me. How dense are you? It is barely two years of news and it certainly is not big news splashed all over everything.

      Yeah if you search carefully, you will find it, but if you search for SCP, like most people do, you find third party solutions that have been around for decades and work well.

      That does not mean that there is anything wrong with people.

      This backs up what I found in one of those blog posts.

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      According to this, it's not even production ready yet.

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @coliver
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          @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

          I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

          How long ago did you try?

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Dashrender
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            @dashrender said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

            @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

            I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

            How long ago did you try?

            January.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
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              @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

              I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

              Those are not features of SSH. SSH doesn't have them on either platform.

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite
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                We keep talking about ssh on Windows but what about PowerShell on Linux?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                  @black3dynamite said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                  We keep talking about ssh on Windows but what about PowerShell on Linux?

                  That works great too. We've had that for a while (like a year.) Microsoft has put a lot of effort into that. It's to make that more broadly useful is why the push for SSH by the PS team.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    I've had it for quite a while. Works just fine.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                      @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                      I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

                      Those are not features of SSH. SSH doesn't have them on either platform.

                      That's fine... but that's one of the reasons we needed to look at a different SFTP server that allowed us to designate home directories and jails for users.

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                      • GreyG
                        Grey
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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                          @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                          I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

                          Those are not features of SSH. SSH doesn't have them on either platform.

                          That's fine... but that's one of the reasons we needed to look at a different SFTP server that allowed us to designate home directories and jails for users.

                          Seems like an odd functionality to want in your SSH server. Why do you want that on Windows?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                            @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                            @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                            I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

                            Those are not features of SSH. SSH doesn't have them on either platform.

                            That's fine... but that's one of the reasons we needed to look at a different SFTP server that allowed us to designate home directories and jails for users.

                            Seems like an odd functionality to want in your SSH server. Why do you want that on Windows?

                            If you're treating it like FTP, why wouldn't you want those things?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @dashrender said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                              @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                              @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                              I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

                              Those are not features of SSH. SSH doesn't have them on either platform.

                              That's fine... but that's one of the reasons we needed to look at a different SFTP server that allowed us to designate home directories and jails for users.

                              Seems like an odd functionality to want in your SSH server. Why do you want that on Windows?

                              If you're treating it like FTP, why wouldn't you want those things?

                              Why would you treat it that way? What is the proposed use case here?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                If you want Linux features, why are you running Windows? This is where I'm confused.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Basically we want a random third party small Service to recreate an OS but only when available over that one protocol?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                                    @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                                    @coliver said in Why Does Windows Need Special SFTP Functionality?:

                                    I've found OpenSSH on Windows to be missing some features that Linux has. It may be a Windows vs Linux thing but home directories and jails seem to be both missing. There were some others in the past but don't remember what they were offhand.

                                    Those are not features of SSH. SSH doesn't have them on either platform.

                                    That's fine... but that's one of the reasons we needed to look at a different SFTP server that allowed us to designate home directories and jails for users.

                                    Seems like an odd functionality to want in your SSH server. Why do you want that on Windows?

                                    If you're treating it like FTP, why wouldn't you want those things?

                                    But FTP doesn't have those things, either. In both cases FTP and SFTP are just the protocols, but we are talking about OS functions. Why does SFTP need to be treated so differently from FTP is really the base question.

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