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    Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Gonna make the spend for under $40 for an 8 port.

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse
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        Why would you want a hub over a switch?

        I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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          @gjacobse said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

          Why would you want a hub over a switch?

          I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

          You're missing it.

          I need a switch to act as a basic hub. It's doing nothing but passing network to a few other devices.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
              last edited by

              @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

              @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

              Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                Yeah a dumb netgear for less than half the price.

                That's what I would likely do.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                  @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                  @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                  Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                  Switches are not hubs. They are different things. Hubs are a tier 1 device, Switches are a tier 2.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    This post belongs in my WTF thread

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                    • brianlittlejohnB
                      brianlittlejohn @DustinB3403
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                      @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                      @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                      @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                      Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                      There is always switching taking place on a switch. All switches operate on layer 2. Hubs have no switching and operate at layer 1, so they are two different things.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        This post belongs in my WTF thread

                        Where is the thumbs-up emoji when ya need it!

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          OK seems like there is some confusion here.

                          Hubs simply rebroadcast something that comes in on a port onto every other port on the hub

                          A switch typically operators at Layer 2 - it knows what devices are on each port and only sends traffic to the port that is responsible for the device in question.

                          But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                          I suppose if someone was only ever introduced to the layer 3 style switches, they might assume all switches work this way, and they knew Hubs didn't so...

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @DustinB3403
                            last edited by coliver

                            @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                            Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                            Wtf are you talking about?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                              Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                              Wtf are you talking about?

                              My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                Wtf are you talking about?

                                My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                  last edited by Dashrender

                                  @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                  Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                  Wtf are you talking about?

                                  My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                  Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                  In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosed 😛

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                    Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                    Wtf are you talking about?

                                    My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                    Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                    In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                                    Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                      Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                      Wtf are you talking about?

                                      My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                      Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                      In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                                      Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

                                      yup, I deserve that - it was supposed to be hosed...

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                        Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                        Wtf are you talking about?

                                        My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                        Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                        In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                                        That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                                          THat acutally makes it a multi-port router.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @gjacobse said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            Why would you want a hub over a switch?

                                            I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

                                            You're missing it.

                                            I need a switch to act as a basic hub. It's doing nothing but passing network to a few other devices.

                                            I suppose you could set a switch to broadcast everything to every port. Why would you ever want this, though? What's the goal?

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