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    Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?

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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
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      @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

      @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

      Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

      They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
      Not sure why no one else has one!
      You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

      Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

      We need an "XO" for KVM

      I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

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      • QuixoticJeremyQ
        QuixoticJeremy @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

        @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

        @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

        Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

        They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
        Not sure why no one else has one!
        You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

        Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

        We need an "XO" for KVM

        I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

        lol sorry guys! Afraid super busy is the understatement of the century for me at the time being haha.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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          @travisdh1 said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

          @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

          @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

          Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

          They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
          Not sure why no one else has one!
          You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

          Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

          We need an "XO" for KVM

          I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

          I think it might be on a list somewhere 😉

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
            last edited by JaredBusch

            @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

            @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

            Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

            They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
            Not sure why no one else has one!
            You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

            Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

            We need an "XO" for KVM

            Starwind is doing so. Or were they doing Hyper-V I lost track.

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            • QuixoticJeremyQ
              QuixoticJeremy @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

              @travisdh1 said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

              @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

              @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

              Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

              They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
              Not sure why no one else has one!
              You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

              Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

              We need an "XO" for KVM

              I think we really just need a coder who has some spare time. Not sure I'd be up to the task myself, but it would be an interesting project. Too bad @QuixoticJeremy is already SUPER busy with something else.

              I think it might be on a list somewhere 😉

              lol that is very possible 🙂

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                Does Nutanix really have some tech of real interest?

                They were able to create a GUI for KVM.
                Not sure why no one else has one!
                You'd think RedHat would have a GUI for KVM.

                Gotcha. Now I see what you mean.

                We need an "XO" for KVM

                Starwind is doing so. Or were they doing Hyper-V I lost track.

                Hyper-V

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  According to @KOOLER this will support KVM
                  https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-manager

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                  • S
                    StorageNinja Vendor @FATeknollogee
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                    @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                    This stuff worries me significantly in storage vendors...But Nutanix? That's a vendor that could close its doors any day. It's just bleeding cash, has no hope of investment...

                    Where'd you hear that from??

                    They've lost over 500 million dollars, and are not public so they can't raise VC cash.
                    well over 100 million lost on last quarter.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                      @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                      According to @KOOLER this will support KVM
                      https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-manager

                      In time. Not yet. Hyper-V first.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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                        @storageninja said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                        @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                        This stuff worries me significantly in storage vendors...But Nutanix? That's a vendor that could close its doors any day. It's just bleeding cash, has no hope of investment...

                        Where'd you hear that from??

                        They've lost over 500 million dollars, and are not public so they can't raise VC cash.
                        well over 100 million lost on last quarter.

                        And the bleed isn't slowing down. This is a full on cash burn.

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                        • KOOLERK
                          KOOLER Vendor @FATeknollogee
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                          @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                          Hopefully, before they shut the doors maybe they'll "open source" their KVM + HTML5 GUI !

                          +1

                          Prism is nice 🙂

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @KOOLER
                            last edited by

                            @kooler said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                            Prism is nice 🙂

                            Will the Starwind version be as nice as Prism?

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                            • S
                              StorageNinja Vendor @KOOLER
                              last edited by

                              @kooler HTML5 GUI's you say?

                              0_1502925457565_Cool-vmware-vcenter-vsphere-client-HTML5-no-single-sign-on.png
                              0_1502925462827_vSAN-Operations-Overview-Dashboard.png

                              0_1502925524187_ESXiHostClientFlingScreenShotLargest.png

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                              • KOOLERK
                                KOOLER Vendor @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @fateknollogee said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                @kooler said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                Prism is nice 🙂

                                Will the Starwind version be as nice as Prism?

                                You can get a basic understanding of how it will look like here:

                                https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-manager

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                                • KOOLERK
                                  KOOLER Vendor @StorageNinja
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                                  @storageninja said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                  @kooler HTML5 GUI's you say?

                                  0_1502925457565_Cool-vmware-vcenter-vsphere-client-HTML5-no-single-sign-on.png
                                  0_1502925462827_vSAN-Operations-Overview-Dashboard.png

                                  0_1502925524187_ESXiHostClientFlingScreenShotLargest.png

                                  Very nice!!!

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                                  • pmonchoP
                                    pmoncho @StorageNinja
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                                    @storageninja

                                    I don't believe there is anything to stop a private company from getting more VC cash. For some reason there are billions of dollars to burn in the VC and Hedge fund area. Take a look at Uber. Billions burned and the continue on and on raising more money after more money.

                                    I don't know how these companies with no secure plan to make money continue to get millions? Can someone please enlighten me. 🙂

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                                    • PenguinWranglerP
                                      PenguinWrangler
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                                      I use Kimchi for my KVM hosts. It is really nice.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                                        @pmoncho said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                        @storageninja

                                        I don't believe there is anything to stop a private company from getting more VC cash. For some reason there are billions of dollars to burn in the VC and Hedge fund area. Take a look at Uber. Billions burned and the continue on and on raising more money after more money.

                                        These companies are past this point, there is a way to keep growing with VC money and a way not to. These are companies with no financial plans to sell to VCs and that have old debts to settle. It's not like an Uber where they are burning high but growing and have VCs that think it is a good idea to continue.

                                        I think he had a typo though, as these companies are public and that is the real issue - VCs only deal with private.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                                          @pmoncho said in Is Tintri Heading for Pure and Nutanix Territory Financially?:

                                          I don't know how these companies with no secure plan to make money continue to get millions? Can someone please enlighten me. 🙂

                                          A secure plan gets a bank loan. A risky plan goes to venture capital. It's a gamble. That's how investing works. This is how Google and Amazon got so big.

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                                          • pmonchoP
                                            pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            I get that they gamble. I am an investor but the mentality to throw good money after bad doesn't make sense to me. Initial stages (GOOGL, AMZN, FB, NFLX, etc) and a few years I understand. Companies going on 10+ years, burn immense amounts of cash, high debt and everyone is paid in stock options are the ones I cannot wrap my head around. Good money after bad IMHO.

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