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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch read their title, then read mine. Other than pointing out that it was BBC's opinion, there is no spin. None. Read them, where do you perceive the slightest spin whatsoever?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        In answer to the article,and you spin, not a chance.

        Remember, my "spin" was point out that their prediction was not universal but just theirs. So my "spin" and theirs are opposite. You see spin that doesn't exist that is contrary to what is actually there. You perceive that because I am a proponent of eliminating drivers, that even when I state something neutral or opposite to that, that I must be spinning it in in the way you anticipate me to do. But I simply am not doing that.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @jaredbusch read their title, then read mine. Other than pointing out that it was BBC's opinion, there is no spin. None. Read them, where do you perceive the slightest spin whatsoever?

          I did and no, they are not at all implying the thing.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            In answer to the article,and you spin, not a chance.

            You perceive that because I am a proponent of eliminating drivers, that even when I state something neutral or opposite to that, that I must be spinning it in in the way you anticipate me to do. But I simply am not doing that.

            You are incorrect. Words are words. And you use ones that the authors did not. It has nothing to do with your thoughts for or against. Just with you having to put in words that the authors do not.

            I want driverless cars more than you. As I would benefit more immediately than younif they were available right now.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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              @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @jaredbusch read their title, then read mine. Other than pointing out that it was BBC's opinion, there is no spin. None. Read them, where do you perceive the slightest spin whatsoever?

              I did and no, they are not at all implying the thing.

              Right, mine implies that it is BBC's opinion. Had I purely quoted it in my own voice, it would have been me adding my own statement of it being the case. In order to avoid the spin, I HAD to reword it as being a third party opinion. I added no spin of my own one direction or the other. But I avoided adding a strong spin that would occur had I simply quoted the title.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                You are incorrect. Words are words. And you use ones that the authors did not. It has nothing to do with your thoughts for or against. Just with you having to put in words that the authors do not.

                Rewording is standard journalism, not spin, though. Rewording to add spin, is adding spin. They are different things. To be spin, it must create a bias in the reader different than the original.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Spin from Cambridge dictionary: "a way of describing an idea or situation that makes it seem better than it really is, especially in politics".

                  Exactly the opposite of what I am doing - a careful rewording to describe an idea as closely as possible to what it is.

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                  • jmooreJ
                    jmoore @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch Yeah I'm buying my next car in 2020. I want a red or black volkswagon toureg with sunroof, just because I like it

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                    • NerdyDadN
                      NerdyDad @jmoore
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                      @jmoore Paying off the wife's car around Christmas, then saving to get me a new car next year. Hopefully a black or blue Chevy Sonic Hatchback LTZ or something.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                        @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @jaredbusch Yeah I'm buying my next car in 2020. I want a red or black volkswagon toureg with sunroof, just because I like it

                        My car is new enough (3-4 years old), I'm honestly thinking I might just make it without buying another one. It'll be tough, but it could happen.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
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                          We'll probably be leasing a new truck in the near future depending on some things. Other then that we have two 2014 vehicles going strong.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
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                            We bought two new cars in 2015. Although we got a good deal and a bit less than MSRP, I won't make that mistake ever again. I will never buy newer than 5 or so years.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              n statement of it being the case. In order to avoid the spin, I HAD to reword it as being a third party opinion. I added no spi

                              We just replaced my wife's 2007 with a new 2018. That one might make it to be replaced by driverless. Mine is a 2011, almost no chance it will not be replaced before driverless take over.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                n statement of it being the case. In order to avoid the spin, I HAD to reword it as being a third party opinion. I added no spi

                                We just replaced my wife's 2007 with a new 2018. That one might make it to be replaced by driverless. Mine is a 2011, almost no chance it will not be replaced before driverless take over.

                                My wife's is a 2012 with only 45,000 miles. It will make it years yet.

                                Mine is a 2010 with 191,000 miles. I am hoping to get another full year out of it. Anything more than that will be bonus time IMO.

                                Neither vehicle will make it to our driverless future.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                  @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  n statement of it being the case. In order to avoid the spin, I HAD to reword it as being a third party opinion. I added no spi

                                  We just replaced my wife's 2007 with a new 2018. That one might make it to be replaced by driverless. Mine is a 2011, almost no chance it will not be replaced before driverless take over.

                                  My wife's is a 2012 with only 45,000 miles. It will make it years yet.

                                  Mine is a 2010 with 191,000 miles. I am hoping to get another full year out of it. Anything more than that will be bonus time IMO.

                                  Neither vehicle will make it to our driverless future.

                                  I drive a lot, but you're crushing me. 2011, 140K on it right now. 3 trips to Chicago in the next 6 months, and at least one trip to Denver next year. The plan is to keep it for 2-3 more years while we pay off the wife's new SUV.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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                                    @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    We bought two new cars in 2015. Although we got a good deal and a bit less than MSRP, I won't make that mistake ever again.

                                    Why would the above lead to the below?

                                    @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    I will never buy newer than 5 or so years.

                                    This is just stupid. Like everything else, vehicles are improved (mostly) every year. Better parts, better design, etc. The cars I grew up with in the 80's were never designed to last 200,000 miles or more. Of course a few did, but those were outliers.

                                    Today's cars are absolutely capable of 200,000 miles or more when properly maintained with the recommended maintenance and inspections from the manufacturer.

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                                    • momurdaM
                                      momurda
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                                      My 2001 has a bit less than 108,000 miles. Drive it every day.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @momurda
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                                        @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        My 2001 has a bit less than 108,000 miles. Drive it every day.

                                        For what? a mile? 😛

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                                        • NerdyDadN
                                          NerdyDad
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                                          Currently drive a 2010 Chevy Impala with about 232k miles. It'll make it probably to next summer.

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                                          • momurdaM
                                            momurda @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender 3.5 each way to work, occasional road trips.

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