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    • NerdyDadN
      NerdyDad @Kelly
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      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

      Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

      Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

      Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

      But the science and mission of NASA is great.

      This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

      While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

      I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

      If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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        @nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

        Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

        Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

        Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

        But the science and mission of NASA is great.

        This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

        While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

        I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

        If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.

        It's like how IT Buyers just hire other people to do the job they are tasked with. You can cut them out and let the business do that directly and save all that money.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Kelly
          last edited by

          @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

          Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

          Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

          Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as theirbudget has consistently shrunk year after year.

          But the science and mission of NASA is great.

          This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

          While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

          I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

          Because they don’t generally do the same research, and what NASA does is passed to the rest of the science community.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @NerdyDad
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            @nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

            Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

            Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

            Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

            But the science and mission of NASA is great.

            This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

            While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

            I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

            If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.

            That is a total lack of understanding

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

              Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

              Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

              Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

              But the science and mission of NASA is great.

              This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

              While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

              I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

              If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.

              It's like how IT Buyers just hire other people to do the job they are tasked with. You can cut them out and let the business do that directly and save all that money.

              Except that is not how it is setup.

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              • KellyK
                Kelly @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as theirbudget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                But the science and mission of NASA is great.

                This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

                While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

                I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

                Because they don’t generally do the same research, and what NASA does is passed to the rest of the science community.

                But NASA's mission doesn't include the earth, and NOAA's specifically does. I'm not saying that NASA shouldn't collect data if they are the ones handling the satellites, but they shouldn't be doing the research. That is like the army having airplanes. Oh wait... It still doesn't make sense imo.

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda @dafyre
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                  @dafyre NASA does science, not launches. That is how it should be, let them discover new things while spacex gets them where they need to go.

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                  • momurdaM
                    momurda @dbeato
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                    @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    Grafana with Zimbra
                    https://grafana.com/dashboards/2846

                    Wow that is nice.
                    Where is the same for Exchange, MS? Resource Monitor is terrible compared to this dashboard.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @momurda
                      last edited by

                      @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @dafyre NASA does science, not launches. That is how it should be, let them discover new things while spacex gets them where they need to go.

                      Why not have SpaceX do the science, too?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @momurda
                        last edited by

                        @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        Grafana with Zimbra
                        https://grafana.com/dashboards/2846

                        Wow that is nice.
                        Where is the same for Exchange, MS? Resource Monitor is terrible compared to this dashboard.

                        People who run Exchange don't care about stuff like this 😉

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @dafyre NASA does science, not launches. That is how it should be, let them discover new things while spacex gets them where they need to go.

                          Why not have SpaceX do the science, too?

                          Because totally not the same thing.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @dafyre NASA does science, not launches. That is how it should be, let them discover new things while spacex gets them where they need to go.

                            Why not have SpaceX do the science, too?

                            Because totally not the same thing.

                            Right, I'm asking why they don't make it the same thing.

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                            • momurdaM
                              momurda @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller They would need to become NASA to do what NASA does, and in doing so lose what makes them Spacex. spacex isnt making anything nearly as complicated as NASA. NASA is way beyond rocket science with clever gyros.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @momurda
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                                @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller They would need to become NASA to do what NASA does, and in doing so lose what makes them Spacex. spacex isnt making anything nearly as complicated as NASA. NASA is way beyond rocket science with clever gyros.

                                To be fair... compared to other countries NASA wasn't that great at rocket science.

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                                • momurdaM
                                  momurda @coliver
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                                  @coliver True. But now they are doing things like gravity wave detection.
                                  The possibilities with that are akin to the discovery and manipulation of radio waves 100 years ago; knowledge that fundamentally transformed humanity.

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                                  • KellyK
                                    Kelly @momurda
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                                    @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @coliver True. But now they are doing things like gravity wave detection.
                                    The possibilities with that are akin to the discovery and manipulation of radio waves 100 years ago; knowledge that fundamentally transformed humanity.

                                    This makes sense for NASA to spend their time on. Climate research doesn't.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @momurda
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                                      @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller They would need to become NASA to do what NASA does, and in doing so lose what makes them Spacex. spacex isnt making anything nearly as complicated as NASA. NASA is way beyond rocket science with clever gyros.

                                      Well sure, but I want them to do twice as much for half the money. What NASA does is "make good things at great cost", I want them to do something better.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                        @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller They would need to become NASA to do what NASA does, and in doing so lose what makes them Spacex. spacex isnt making anything nearly as complicated as NASA. NASA is way beyond rocket science with clever gyros.

                                        To be fair... compared to other countries NASA wasn't that great at rocket science.

                                        Forty years of NASA just to keep pace with four years of Nazi Germany.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller They would need to become NASA to do what NASA does, and in doing so lose what makes them Spacex. spacex isnt making anything nearly as complicated as NASA. NASA is way beyond rocket science with clever gyros.

                                          To be fair... compared to other countries NASA wasn't that great at rocket science.

                                          Forty years of NASA just to keep pace with four years of Nazi Germany.

                                          Not quite that extreme but it's a good point.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @scottalanmiller They would need to become NASA to do what NASA does, and in doing so lose what makes them Spacex. spacex isnt making anything nearly as complicated as NASA. NASA is way beyond rocket science with clever gyros.

                                            To be fair... compared to other countries NASA wasn't that great at rocket science.

                                            Forty years of NASA just to keep pace with four years of Nazi Germany.

                                            We were at least a decade behind Russia for most of the space race and cold war.

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