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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

      Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

      I've found them both really easy 🙂

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

        @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

        Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

        I've found them both really easy 🙂

        XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          Guess it's time to get that old copy of Hyper-V dusted off...

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

            Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

            I've found them both really easy 🙂

            XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

            How so?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @brrabill said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

              Guess it's time to get that old copy of Hyper-V dusted off...

              Or move to KVM. Duh.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                I've found them both really easy 🙂

                XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                XenServer wasn't as easy for me as Xen.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @brrabill said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                  Guess it's time to get that old copy of Hyper-V dusted off...

                  Why would this be your jump? Why now would you go from open source to closed source?

                  At the time you were evaluating XS, you were using Hyper-V and while it worked, it lacked a lot of what you needed.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                    @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                    @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                    Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                    I've found them both really easy 🙂

                    XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                    How so?

                    In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                    KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                      @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                      Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                      I've found them both really easy 🙂

                      XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                      How so?

                      In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                      KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

                      Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                        @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                        @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                        @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                        @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                        @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                        Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                        I've found them both really easy 🙂

                        XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                        How so?

                        In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                        KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

                        Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

                        Yep, just SSH.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                          Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                          I've found them both really easy 🙂

                          XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                          How so?

                          In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                          KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

                          Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

                          Yepp.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                            @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                            @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                            Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                            I've found them both really easy 🙂

                            XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                            How so?

                            In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                            KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

                            Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

                            Yepp.

                            Is there no web management for it then?

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                            • jmooreJ
                              jmoore @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                              KVM is Linux virtualization, Xen is not.

                              What is Xen then?

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                                I've found them both really easy 🙂

                                XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                                How so?

                                In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                                KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

                                Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

                                Yepp.

                                Is there no web management for it then?

                                Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.

                                  That and I really want a SPOG like XO.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustinb3403 said

                                    At the time you were evaluating XS, you were using Hyper-V and while it worked, it lacked a lot of what you needed.

                                    Was evaluating hypervisors and decided to give XS a try over Hyper-V.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                      Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                                      I've found them both really easy 🙂

                                      XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                                      How so?

                                      In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                                      KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

                                      Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

                                      Yepp.

                                      Is there no web management for it then?

                                      Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).

                                      No firewall?

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                        I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.

                                        That and I really want a SPOG like XO.

                                        WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                          Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.

                                          I've found them both really easy 🙂

                                          XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.

                                          How so?

                                          In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.

                                          KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.

                                          Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?

                                          Yepp.

                                          Is there no web management for it then?

                                          Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).

                                          No firewall?

                                          Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.

                                          scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

                                            I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.

                                            That and I really want a SPOG like XO.

                                            WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.

                                            But how is it setup, as a VM like XO, is it built into Fedora distro's when you install it with the ISO?

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