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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato
      last edited by

      YOu mean this post right
      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/doj-strong-encryption-that-we-dont-have-access-to-is-unreasonable/
      Not this
      https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/off-the-charts-pollution-in-delhi-creates-gas-chamber-and-health-emergency/

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        you linked to the Delhi article.

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        • mlnewsM
          mlnews
          last edited by

          Fixed, thanks.

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          • M
            marcinozga
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            That what you get when you elect conservatives. These people are so out of touch with modern world, it’s scary.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Rosenstein also said

              "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

              Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @dustinb3403 said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                Rosenstein also said

                "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

                Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

                People can still get in and out of their phone. I don't have to give my door key to the DoJ.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                  @dustinb3403 said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                  Rosenstein also said

                  "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

                  Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

                  People can still get in and out of their phone. I don't have to give my door key to the DoJ.

                  Yeah - I'm trying to come up with a physical example to compare to digital security - but I'm coming up blank.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                    @dustinb3403 said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                    Rosenstein also said

                    "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

                    Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

                    People can still get in and out of their phone. I don't have to give my door key to the DoJ.

                    A better way to express it is "I won't live in a house that has locks that are managed by my neighbors."

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                      @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                      @dustinb3403 said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                      Rosenstein also said

                      "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

                      Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

                      People can still get in and out of their phone. I don't have to give my door key to the DoJ.

                      Yeah - I'm trying to come up with a physical example to compare to digital security - but I'm coming up blank.

                      Doors aren't bad. You lock your door, the DoJ is an intruder, the key company does not send copies of your keys to the DoJ.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                        @dashrender said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                        @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                        @dustinb3403 said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                        Rosenstein also said

                        "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

                        Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

                        People can still get in and out of their phone. I don't have to give my door key to the DoJ.

                        Yeah - I'm trying to come up with a physical example to compare to digital security - but I'm coming up blank.

                        Doors aren't bad. You lock your door, the DoJ is an intruder, the key company does not send copies of your keys to the DoJ.

                        They might be forced too if this gets passed. . .

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                          @dashrender said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                          @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                          @dustinb3403 said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                          Rosenstein also said

                          "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

                          Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

                          People can still get in and out of their phone. I don't have to give my door key to the DoJ.

                          Yeah - I'm trying to come up with a physical example to compare to digital security - but I'm coming up blank.

                          Doors aren't bad. You lock your door, the DoJ is an intruder, the key company does not send copies of your keys to the DoJ.

                          It's really not good enough. The DOJ can hack your door with lock picks or just bust it down.

                          I suppose a better example would be a universal garage door opener that only the government is supposed to have, but of course, once the bad guys know about that, they will keep hacking the government until they steal one of those universal door openers. Secure keys for encryption would be the same. The government is as leaky as a cauldron, there's almost no chance they could keep keys like this from the hackers. Then instantly everyone would be vulnerable.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                            @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                            @dashrender said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                            @scottalanmiller said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                            @dustinb3403 said in US DOJ Continues Its Attack on User Privacy:

                            Rosenstein also said

                            "...People want to secure their houses, but they still need to get in and out. Same issue here."

                            Not even close, those people are welcome to come and go in their damn house. You on the other hand might get shot in the face if you just walk into someone's house uninvited.

                            People can still get in and out of their phone. I don't have to give my door key to the DoJ.

                            Yeah - I'm trying to come up with a physical example to compare to digital security - but I'm coming up blank.

                            Doors aren't bad. You lock your door, the DoJ is an intruder, the key company does not send copies of your keys to the DoJ.

                            It's really not good enough. The DOJ can hack your door with lock picks or just bust it down.

                            I suppose a better example would be a universal garage door opener that only the government is supposed to have, but of course, once the bad guys know about that, they will keep hacking the government until they steal one of those universal door openers. Secure keys for encryption would be the same. The government is as leaky as a cauldron, there's almost no chance they could keep keys like this from the hackers. Then instantly everyone would be vulnerable.

                            Everyone that uses a mainstream OS or device that operates anywhere in the world that has any operations within the US. Yup

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