HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?
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https://www.computerworld.com/article/3238512/microsoft-windows/hp-stealthily-installs-new-spyware-called-hp-touchpoint-analytics-client.html -
Wow. secretly installed telemetry collection without permission. That's awful. And no response from HP yet?
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If true, they are on my do not buy list until i die.
I have a half dozen or so newer HP computers recently bought here, though it doesnt look like this has been installed on any of them yet. -
@momurda said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
If true, they are on my do not buy list until i die.
I have a half dozen or so newer HP computers recently bought here, though it doesnt look like this has been installed on any of them yet.@QuixoticJeremy is quite unhappy with his.
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Good grief
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Did they learn nothing from Lenovo?
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@dafyre said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Did they learn nothing from Lenovo?
Looks like they learned everything from Lenovo... screw your customers over and don't worry, you won't get in any real trouble for it.
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@rojoloco said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@dafyre said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Did they learn nothing from Lenovo?
Looks like they learned everything from Lenovo... screw your customers over and don't worry, you won't get in any real trouble for it.
Exactly. Lenovo showed that customers are SO easy to manoipulate and no one really cares about security. Lenovo shows us why IoT will never get secured - no one cares at the end of the day.
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@dafyre said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Did they learn nothing from Lenovo?
They're apparently sharing the same play book.
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where is @Dashrender he has an HP fleet i believe...
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What is it doing that's harmful?
HP Spectres are pretty sweet.
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@guyinpv said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
What is it doing that's harmful?
HP Spectres are pretty sweet.
It's siphoning off data without your permission. Totally unacceptable.
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@rojoloco said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@guyinpv said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
What is it doing that's harmful?
HP Spectres are pretty sweet.
It's siphoning off data without your permission. Totally unacceptable.
Not to mention borderline illegal.
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@coliver said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@rojoloco said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@guyinpv said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
What is it doing that's harmful?
HP Spectres are pretty sweet.
It's siphoning off data without your permission. Totally unacceptable.
Not to mention
borderlineillegal.FTFY
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I'm sure the nuances are worth arguing.
I'm certainly not ok with the general idea of what happened, but they aren't siphoning off your contact list and personal documents. It sounds like they are getting system data of the HP hardware, presumably so they can improve future hardware/software updates or provide support, whatever.
I don't know, that's what I'm asking. What exactly is it siphoning, and why? And is their use of this tool and its data gathering agreed upon in some HP license or hardware agreement somewhere?
It seems like every device and software any more wants to phone home some kind of environment/telemetry data. Again presumably because it helps them develop the software better and debug edge case issues.
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SURPRISE! All of the big companies you use are secretly collecting data about you and what you do, or are getting hacked for the stuff you do give them.
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@guyinpv said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
I'm certainly not ok with the general idea of what happened, but they aren't siphoning off your contact list and personal documents.
How do you know this? Illegal spyware is illegal spyware. They are stealing data without permission, they are deploying malware without permission. What they are gathering today or that you know about isn't really part of the discussion.
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@guyinpv said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
It seems like every device and software any more wants to phone home some kind of environment/telemetry data. Again presumably because it helps them develop the software better and debug edge case issues.
Sure, and there are legit, legal ways to do that. This is not that and points to a nefarious purpose.
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Interesting, I have only Dell workstations so I cannot say. Let's see what @travisdh1 says about this.
