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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      OK so I've got a really basic lab I'm setting up, just to toy with KVM and am trying to get this all sorted out. I'm able to connect to my KVM server using Virt-Manager, that part was surprisingly easy.

      I have a VM I've created on my remote host, and while attempting to get connected to it, I'm repeatedly asked for the root password on the server, after entering the password a few times (8 maybe) I'm connected to the VM's console.

      • Is there any way to resolve this? I'm assuming a there is key based authentication that I can use to do this.

      The second question is, without having to mount a ISO on my Windows 10 system, to pass that to the Fedora Workstation VM that I'm using to connect to the KVM server, how can I directly attach the ISO the KVM server?

      The below is a slapstick way that I thought would work, but it doesn't appear to. . .

      Below you can see virt-manager, an ISO I have mounted into the CD rom of my management system, and I'm trying to pass the ISO to virt-manager (and then the server) to be able to create that VM.

      0_1512740009451_VirtualBox_2017-12-08_08-32-08.png

      Yet I'm unable to detect any media or more accurately, KVM isn't able to detect the ISO.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
        last edited by

        Key based Auth will fix the problem of asking you for your password 500 times.

        For the ISOs, I usually make a separate folder and add it as a Storage Repo... Then just SCP the ISO's into the folder and you're good to go.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @dafyre
          last edited by

          @dafyre said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

          Key based Auth will fix the problem of asking you for your password 500 times.

          For the ISOs, I usually make a separate folder and add it as a Storage Repo... Then just SCP the ISO's into the folder and you're good to go.

          Any recommendations on how to setup the keys?

          As for the "creating a separate folder", do you mean in here? I guess the question is, why can't I either just share the CD Rom with the server?

          0_1512740833950_VirtualBox_2017-12-08_08-47-05.png

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

            @dafyre said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

            Key based Auth will fix the problem of asking you for your password 500 times.

            For the ISOs, I usually make a separate folder and add it as a Storage Repo... Then just SCP the ISO's into the folder and you're good to go.

            Any recommendations on how to setup the keys?

            As for the "creating a separate folder", do you mean in here? I guess the question is, why can't I either just share the CD Rom with the server?

            0_1512740833950_VirtualBox_2017-12-08_08-47-05.png

            Yes, there. Just hit the add button, and tell it you want to use a directory.

            I've only tried to share the CDROM in VMware (and only once... it was horrid!), so that turned me off to it.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

              @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

              @dafyre said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

              Key based Auth will fix the problem of asking you for your password 500 times.

              For the ISOs, I usually make a separate folder and add it as a Storage Repo... Then just SCP the ISO's into the folder and you're good to go.

              Any recommendations on how to setup the keys?

              As for the "creating a separate folder", do you mean in here? I guess the question is, why can't I either just share the CD Rom with the server?

              0_1512740833950_VirtualBox_2017-12-08_08-47-05.png

              Yes, there. Just hit the add button, and tell it you want to use a directory.

              I've only tried to share the CDROM in VMware (and only once... it was horrid!), so that turned me off to it.

              Something isn't adding up for me. When I go to create a new VM, there is just "No media detected", regardless of what I use when I create the media from the storage menu.

              0_1512741943423_VirtualBox_2017-12-08_09-05-35.png

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Is what I'm trying to do weird? I simply want to share out a CD rom from my management system to the server, so the server doesn't need to save any ISO's locally.

                This is doable on XenServer, Hyper-V and ESXi. . . am I being weird?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Of course I can just create a directory on the server and then download ISO's directly into it. . .

                  But I'd rather not. Hrm. . it works, but seems weird.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    You also need to have your user added to the libvirt group on the KVM host.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                      Of course I can just create a directory on the server and then download ISO's directly into it. . .

                      But I'd rather not. Hrm. . it works, but seems weird.

                      Well I do not download from the KVM server, I do always have a "iso_store" folder on my KVM server that I have ISO files in.

                      Sometimes it is a remote share mounted, most of the time it is local to the /root partition.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                        @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                        Of course I can just create a directory on the server and then download ISO's directly into it. . .

                        But I'd rather not. Hrm. . it works, but seems weird.

                        Well I do not download from the KVM server, I do always have a "iso_store" folder on my KVM server that I have ISO files in.

                        Sometimes it is a remote share mounted, most of the time it is local to the /root partition.

                        Yea so what I did is I SSH'd to the server, and ran sudo mkdir /media/iso and then ran wget <url.iso> and it works. But it seems like the wrong way to have to do this. . .

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                          @jaredbusch said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                          @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                          Of course I can just create a directory on the server and then download ISO's directly into it. . .

                          But I'd rather not. Hrm. . it works, but seems weird.

                          Well I do not download from the KVM server, I do always have a "iso_store" folder on my KVM server that I have ISO files in.

                          Sometimes it is a remote share mounted, most of the time it is local to the /root partition.

                          Yea so what I did is I SSH'd to the server, and ran sudo mkdir /media/iso and then ran wget <url.iso> and it works. But it seems like the wrong way to have to do this. . .

                          I will generally mkdir /iso_store and then from my desktop scp the .iso files over.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                            @jaredbusch said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                            @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                            Of course I can just create a directory on the server and then download ISO's directly into it. . .

                            But I'd rather not. Hrm. . it works, but seems weird.

                            Well I do not download from the KVM server, I do always have a "iso_store" folder on my KVM server that I have ISO files in.

                            Sometimes it is a remote share mounted, most of the time it is local to the /root partition.

                            Yea so what I did is I SSH'd to the server, and ran sudo mkdir /media/iso and then ran wget <url.iso> and it works. But it seems like the wrong way to have to do this. . .

                            It's the way I've seen folks do it with VMware, or XenServer, or Hyper-V... Why should KVM be any different?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                              @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                              @jaredbusch said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                              @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                              Of course I can just create a directory on the server and then download ISO's directly into it. . .

                              But I'd rather not. Hrm. . it works, but seems weird.

                              Well I do not download from the KVM server, I do always have a "iso_store" folder on my KVM server that I have ISO files in.

                              Sometimes it is a remote share mounted, most of the time it is local to the /root partition.

                              Yea so what I did is I SSH'd to the server, and ran sudo mkdir /media/iso and then ran wget <url.iso> and it works. But it seems like the wrong way to have to do this. . .

                              It's the way I've seen folks do it with VMware, or XenServer, or Hyper-V... Why should KVM be any different?

                              @dafyre I can't share out a local dvd drive to server (that seems weird). Maybe I'm just trying to set it up incorrectly. But my goal would be to not have to store ISO's on the hypervisor at all.

                              Instead share out a local directory and have the server browse that to mount any ISO's as required.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                @dafyre said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                @jaredbusch said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                Of course I can just create a directory on the server and then download ISO's directly into it. . .

                                But I'd rather not. Hrm. . it works, but seems weird.

                                Well I do not download from the KVM server, I do always have a "iso_store" folder on my KVM server that I have ISO files in.

                                Sometimes it is a remote share mounted, most of the time it is local to the /root partition.

                                Yea so what I did is I SSH'd to the server, and ran sudo mkdir /media/iso and then ran wget <url.iso> and it works. But it seems like the wrong way to have to do this. . .

                                It's the way I've seen folks do it with VMware, or XenServer, or Hyper-V... Why should KVM be any different?

                                @dafyre I can't share out a local dvd drive to server (that seems weird). Maybe I'm just trying to set it up incorrectly. But my goal would be to not have to store ISO's on the hypervisor at all.

                                Instead share out a local directory and have the server browse that to mount any ISO's as required.

                                then make the mount on the KVM server to the share, what is the issue here?

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by travisdh1

                                  @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                  @dafyre said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                  Key based Auth will fix the problem of asking you for your password 500 times.

                                  For the ISOs, I usually make a separate folder and add it as a Storage Repo... Then just SCP the ISO's into the folder and you're good to go.

                                  Any recommendations on how to setup the keys?

                                  As for the "creating a separate folder", do you mean in here? I guess the question is, why can't I either just share the CD Rom with the server?

                                  0_1512740833950_VirtualBox_2017-12-08_08-47-05.png

                                  That's what ssh-copy-id was made for. Makes copying your key to a remote host quick and easy.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    OK so I have my rsa keys shared and distributed, now I'm trying to add the connection in Virt-Manager and it doesn't seem to want to take the combination.

                                    I can still connect using root or the user account on the server with the password though.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                      And everything still requires the user password to login or open the share.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        did you put in a password for the key encryption?

                                        As Travis said, use ssh-copy-id user@remotehost

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @stacksofplates said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                          did you put in a password for the key encryption?

                                          As Travis said, use ssh-copy-id user@remotehost

                                          Nope, no password when generating the key. Just blank.

                                          The key is copied to the KVM server, and I can ssh into it with just ```ssh 'user@000.000.000.000'

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by Obsolesce

                                            @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in KVM - Virt-Manager on a Separate VM:

                                            And everything still requires the user password to login or open the share.

                                            Did you run ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096 -C "KVM01_Root_SSHKey" on your KVM host as root?

                                            Did you add the public key of your desktop to the /root/.ssh/authorized_keys file on your KVM host? (or whichever user qemu runs as)

                                            If you're connecting virt-manager to your KVM host via SSH, you just need to have made sure to do the above steps... then when you add that KVM host to virt-manager, connect via SSH, type in root as the username (unless you set it up with another), then connect. NO password or anything (unless you used one on your private key).

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