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    UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today"

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      bnrstnr @gjacobse
      last edited by bnrstnr

      @gjacobse Looks like he's asking if UNMS is production ready for the EdgeMax line of routers, not it's ability to manage Unifi products.

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        bigbear @bnrstnr
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        @bnrstnr said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

        @gjacobse Looks like he's asking if UNMS is production ready for the EdgeMax line of routers, not it's ability to manage Unifi products.

        Yeah sorry, no meraki, no cross management. Just asking if bought today would you rather...

        UNMS + Edge Routers

        or

        Unifi + Ubiquiti USG Routers

        If the UNMS with Edge Routers isnt production ready I would rather send them in a direction I know will work. I will have no regrets later because I am not managing any of this...

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          coliver @bigbear
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          @bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

          UNMS + Edge Routers

          UNMS + Edge Routers

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            bigbear @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

            @bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

            UNMS + Edge Routers

            UNMS + Edge Routers

            Is any part of this still in Beta? I remember last I was poking around a saw something to do with a beta firmware for the ER-X being required.

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              brianlittlejohn
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              UNMS is mostly monitoring right now. Very little config can be done from it, however it does centralize device backup configs to a single place.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                In regards to the capability of Units talking to UNMS, nothing with the EdgeMax router line is beta. Has not been for months. The EdgeSwitch was beta until last week or so when the latest firmware went from beta to production.

                UNMS itself is still carrying the "beta" tag, but it is in full public beta release now.

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                  JaredBusch @bigbear
                  last edited by

                  @bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                  @bnrstnr said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                  @gjacobse Looks like he's asking if UNMS is production ready for the EdgeMax line of routers, not it's ability to manage Unifi products.

                  Yeah sorry, no meraki, no cross management. Just asking if bought today would you rather...

                  UNMS + Edge Routers

                  or

                  Unifi + Ubiquiti USG Routers

                  If the UNMS with Edge Routers isnt production ready I would rather send them in a direction I know will work. I will have no regrets later because I am not managing any of this...

                  UniFi routers suck horribly. They are just EdgeMax router hardware with different firmware anyway.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    This is what you see currently when you click on an ERL in UNMS.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      I can then click on Interfaces and then an interface and get this.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by JaredBusch

                        Routing, you can add a static route.
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                        or OSPF
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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          You cannot configure services, but you can turn some on and off.
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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                            This is what you see currently when you click on an ERL in UNMS.

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                            Thanks @JaredBusch, can they use DPI to see who is screwing the internet with Youtube, they way they could do with a local ERX via the IP address on the lan?

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                            • hobbit666H
                              hobbit666
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                              @JaredBusch Would you run a Unifi Controller on the same VM as a UMNS? Or have them Separate?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @bigbear
                                last edited by

                                @bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                                @jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                                This is what you see currently when you click on an ERL in UNMS.

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                                Thanks @JaredBusch, can they use DPI to see who is screwing the internet with Youtube, they way they could do with a local ERX via the IP address on the lan?

                                No, the DPI info is not in UNMS yet.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @hobbit666
                                  last edited by

                                  @hobbit666 said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                                  @JaredBusch Would you run a Unifi Controller on the same VM as a UMNS? Or have them Separate?

                                  UNMS runs in a docker container, unless you like pain.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                    @bigbear The statistics are just high level at this time.

                                    The latency & outage is a measure from the unit to the UNMS controller.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      You can click on almost any IP on any screen and it will pop it into a browser window. So if you have rules setup for that, you will be taken directly to the unit's login.

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                                      • bigbearB
                                        bigbear @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                                        You can click on almost any IP on any screen and it will pop it into a browser window. So if you have rules setup for that, you will be taken directly to the unit's login.

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                                        The only thing I can see suited to their described needs in the Unifi is the ability to use the web browser or mobile app to remotely look at what is going on with internet access when users start complaining about the speed slowing down.

                                        I have a Unifi at home and I use the mobile app to block my kids at night, and can see they are on Youtube, etc.

                                        I have always preferred the Edgemax, only bought the Unifi when I started reading here about the Unifi controller software.

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                                        • hobbit666H
                                          hobbit666 @JaredBusch
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                                          @jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                                          UNMS runs in a docker container, unless you like pain.

                                          OK ..... Time to re-read about Docker stuff lol

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @hobbit666
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                                            @hobbit666 said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                                            @jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

                                            UNMS runs in a docker container, unless you like pain.

                                            OK ..... Time to re-read about Docker stuff lol

                                            Nope, just install a clean Debian 9.1 (or whatever is now current) and then run the UNMS install script.

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