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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

      @scottalanmiller Does Dragonfly not create a standard user with sudo or Sunday access by default?

      Nope, most BSD do not.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

        @travisdh1 said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

        @scottalanmiller Does Dragonfly not create a standard user with sudo or Sunday access by default?

        Nope, most BSD do not.

        Ah, it's been a long time since I actively used any flavor of BSD.

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        • LakshmanaL
          Lakshmana
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          What is Drangonfly ?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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            @lakshmana said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

            What is Drangonfly ?

            One of the five BSDs. FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OSX, and Dragonfly BSD.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              All other surviving BSD products are just rebranding or derivatives of one of these: TrueOS and FreeNAS are both derivates of FreeBSD. pfSense from OpenBSD I believe. GhostBSD is from one of them.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Mac OSX and Dragonfly both came from the FreeBSD ecosystem. But they each use a kernel that is not derived from FreeBSD's current kernel. In many ways, FreeBSD split from DragonFly So in a way, Mac and FreeBSD sort of came from Dragonfly because dFly is the "original" FreeBSD before FreeBSD changed its kernel.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                  All other surviving BSD products are just rebranding or derivatives of one of these: TrueOS and FreeNAS are both derivates of FreeBSD. pfSense from OpenBSD I believe. GhostBSD is from one of them.

                  pfSense is from FreeBSD.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                    All other surviving BSD products are just rebranding or derivatives of one of these: TrueOS and FreeNAS are both derivates of FreeBSD. pfSense from OpenBSD I believe. GhostBSD is from one of them.

                    pfSense is from FreeBSD.

                    Oh yeah. Not many things left derived from the non-FreeBSD BSDs any longer. The list is really light.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      That's one of the nice things about the BSD ecosystem, people fork it way less often.

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                        That's one of the nice things about the BSD ecosystem, people fork it way less often.

                        Speaking BSD ecosystem, how is the development of BSD hypervisor, bhyve?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                          @black3dynamite said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                          That's one of the nice things about the BSD ecosystem, people fork it way less often.

                          Speaking BSD ecosystem, how is the development of BSD hypervisor, bhyve?

                          It's going, but I'm not following it closely. It's not very interesting at this point.

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                            By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

                            vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config
                            

                            Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

                            PermitRootLogin yes
                            

                            And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

                            PasswordAuthentication yes
                            

                            You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

                            /etc/rc.d/sshd restart
                            

                            A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

                            Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @thwr
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                              @thwr said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                              By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

                              vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config
                              

                              Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

                              PermitRootLogin yes
                              

                              And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

                              PasswordAuthentication yes
                              

                              You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

                              /etc/rc.d/sshd restart
                              

                              A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

                              Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

                              This is the only OS I know that does this by default. People looking for Dragonfly issues will run into it.

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                @thwr said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

                                vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config
                                

                                Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

                                PermitRootLogin yes
                                

                                And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

                                PasswordAuthentication yes
                                

                                You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

                                /etc/rc.d/sshd restart
                                

                                A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

                                Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

                                This is the only OS I know that does this by default. People looking for Dragonfly issues will run into it.

                                Debian disallows root login not sure about passwords.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                  @black3dynamite said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                  @thwr said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                  By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

                                  vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config
                                  

                                  Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

                                  PermitRootLogin yes
                                  

                                  And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

                                  PasswordAuthentication yes
                                  

                                  You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

                                  /etc/rc.d/sshd restart
                                  

                                  A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

                                  Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

                                  This is the only OS I know that does this by default. People looking for Dragonfly issues will run into it.

                                  Debian disallows root login not sure about passwords.

                                  Totally different as it...

                                  • Allows passwords
                                  • Creates the user
                                  • Sets the user to be sudo

                                  All of that is not used in Dragonfly.

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                                  • thwrT
                                    thwr @black3dynamite
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                                    @black3dynamite said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                    @thwr said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                    By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

                                    vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config
                                    

                                    Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

                                    PermitRootLogin yes
                                    

                                    And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

                                    PasswordAuthentication yes
                                    

                                    You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

                                    /etc/rc.d/sshd restart
                                    

                                    A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

                                    Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

                                    This is the only OS I know that does this by default. People looking for Dragonfly issues will run into it.

                                    Debian disallows root login not sure about passwords.

                                    At least Ubuntu is

                                    PermitRootLogin without-password
                                    

                                    by default

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @thwr
                                      last edited by

                                      @thwr said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                      @black3dynamite said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                      @thwr said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                      By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

                                      vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config
                                      

                                      Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

                                      PermitRootLogin yes
                                      

                                      And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

                                      PasswordAuthentication yes
                                      

                                      You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

                                      /etc/rc.d/sshd restart
                                      

                                      A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

                                      Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

                                      This is the only OS I know that does this by default. People looking for Dragonfly issues will run into it.

                                      Debian disallows root login not sure about passwords.

                                      At least Ubuntu is

                                      PermitRootLogin without-password
                                      

                                      by default

                                      Right, they allow a lot. 🙂

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Dragonfly is tough by default because unless you use something like Salt, you can't connect to it to get keys to it in the first place. You can curl keys to it, of course. But you need totally different processes than you would typically use with any other OS to get it set up.

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                          Dragonfly is tough by default because unless you use something like Salt, you can't connect to it to get keys to it in the first place. You can curl keys to it, of course. But you need totally different processes than you would typically use with any other OS to get it set up.

                                          That means it's not even Ansible friendly. Pretty much agent-based tools like Puppet, Salt, etc... is the way to go.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                            last edited by

                                            @black3dynamite said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

                                            Dragonfly is tough by default because unless you use something like Salt, you can't connect to it to get keys to it in the first place. You can curl keys to it, of course. But you need totally different processes than you would typically use with any other OS to get it set up.

                                            That means it's not even Ansible friendly. Pretty much agent-based tools like Puppet, Salt, etc... is the way to go.

                                            Yup, unless you have some way to push the Ansible key ahead of time, like in a curl. So back to the beginning there 🙂

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