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    Pandora in Europe- Does It WOrk?

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    • garak0410G
      garak0410
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      Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @garak0410
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        @garak0410 said:

        Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

        Shouldn't really take learning. IT can make it transparent. Check out Pertino.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @garak0410 said:

          Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

          Shouldn't really take learning. IT can make it transparent. Check out Pertino.

          Pertino would do nothing for this.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @garak0410 said:

            Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

            Shouldn't really take learning. IT can make it transparent. Check out Pertino.

            Pertino would do nothing for this.
            Why not?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Why not?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Why not?

                Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Why not?

                  Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                  Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

                  Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Why not?

                    Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                    Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

                    Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

                    If you're going to do that, why not just use a service that is a gateway VPN service? a lot less to manage.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Why not?

                      Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                      Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

                      Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

                      If you're going to do that, why not just use a service that is a gateway VPN service? a lot less to manage.

                      A commercial service? What's an example?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        Would this work? https://proxpn.com/

                        or am I missing something?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Might work. Have never seen that service before.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by Dashrender

                            It's being sold as a way to keep your ISP (or whomever your 'last mile' provider might be) from knowing where you are going on the internet.

                            Assuming there is no overhead on the VPN (ha, yeah right) you could effectively get around any filtering or intentional bottlenecks your local ISP puts in place.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                                Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                                With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                                  Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                                  With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

                                  Sort of true. A leased line is private. An ISP should not have access to the data inside of it any more than they do a VPN. They know you are talking between points but don't know which data elsewhere comes from what origination point.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                                    Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                                    With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

                                    Sort of true. A leased line is private. An ISP should not have access to the data inside of it any more than they do a VPN. They know you are talking between points but don't know which data elsewhere comes from what origination point.

                                    I suppose that's true, but snowden has shown us how the NSA, etc, have tapped even into those private lines... so much for privacy...

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender you can secure them with a VPN though. If the NSA taps your internal network, they know what you are doing proxy or not.

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                                      • StrongBadS
                                        StrongBad
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                                        All normal VPNs should work here.

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