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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

      @romo said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

      @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

      https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
      No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
      https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

      Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

      Really usefull, but I still really hate the old java dependencies that make it not that easy to use until you know to what version you need to downgrade to.

      KVM has java dependencies? I don't remember seeing that when installing KVM anywhere. Even virt-manager is easy to install and use.

      Yes, many do. Colocation America's KVM units do for sure, sadly. Most iDRAC and ILO before the current generation needed Java. Something about the KVMoIP industry led people heaving to Java clients for a long time.

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        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        @travisdh1 said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        @romo said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
        No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
        https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

        Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

        Really usefull, but I still really hate the old java dependencies that make it not that easy to use until you know to what version you need to downgrade to.

        KVM has java dependencies? I don't remember seeing that when installing KVM anywhere. Even virt-manager is easy to install and use.

        Yes, many do. Colocation America's KVM units do for sure, sadly. Most iDRAC and ILO before the current generation needed Java. Something about the KVMoIP industry led people heaving to Java clients for a long time.

        Ah, I was thinking virtualization, not keyboard-video-mouse, oops!

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        • StrongBadS
          StrongBad
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          New KVM units are starting to move away from Java, but many datacenters still have older machines. It's not the kind of tech that you update very often.

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            Alex Sage @EddieJennings
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            @eddiejennings Do you need all that processor? What about replacing with a couple NUC's?

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            • EddieJenningsE
              EddieJennings @Alex Sage
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              @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

              @eddiejennings Do you need all that processor? What about replacing with a couple NUC's?

              Probably not, but I likely need some RAM. When I get some time this evening, I'll take stock of what VMs I want to run and see if I do, in fact, need better hardware. Part of me wanting to put this server into colo is to get a public IP address to use, since I can't get that from my ISP. Granted I could probably use my dynamically assigned IP address with a dynamic DNS service, but then I'll probably run into issues with the residental ToS with my ISP about running web servers, etc. off my home internet connection.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                @eddiejennings Do you need all that processor? What about replacing with a couple NUC's?

                NUCs are pretty hard to rack mount in a colo.

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                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Agreed. I was suggesting that he keep the lab at his apartment.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                    @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                    @scottalanmiller Agreed. I was suggesting that he keep the lab at his apartment.

                    OIC, I think that he is trying to get colocation experience as part of the deal, though.

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                      @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                      @scottalanmiller Agreed. I was suggesting that he keep the lab at his apartment.

                      OIC, I think that he is trying to get colocation experience as part of the deal, though.

                      Yeah. If I wanted to keep it at home, NUCs are a good idea.

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                        Obsolesce
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                        I've been using them for a VPS for a while now and have been great so far.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          The price is not horrible. BUT....

                          10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                          What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

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                            bnrstnr @Obsolesce
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                            @tim_g 10/10Mbit is brutal... also, "unmetered" but 3 TB monthly transfer limit? I guess $29.99 is pretty cheap, but damn.

                            Probably considered unmetered because it would take 32 days to transfer 3TB at 10Mb/s lol

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              I want to know what Unmetered means in this context.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                The price is not horrible. BUT....

                                10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                                What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

                                I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point. What are you doing in a colo (lab expecially), that you need more than 10/10?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                  The price is not horrible. BUT....

                                  10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                                  What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

                                  I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point.

                                  It's just horrible. Price point not important. At some point, even for free, the speed is too slow to really consider it.

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                                    bnrstnr @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point. What are you doing in a colo (lab expecially), that you need more than 10/10?

                                    For $30 a month you can do a lot of stuff on Vultr...

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      The price is not horrible. BUT....

                                      10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                                      What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

                                      I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point.

                                      It's just horrible. Price point not important. At some point, even for free, the speed is too slow to really consider it.

                                      No, it is not. What workload are you using that needs that speed? Unless it is file services, nothing will use it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                        I want to know what Unmetered means in this context.

                                        It means that you just get 10Mb/s, not 10Mb/s based on a fluctuating usage. It's that the port is 10Mb/s and you get up to 3TB usage from it (which might be more than it can do anyway.) Metered 10Mb/s means that they measure you and sometimes you can go over, but they have an algorithm.

                                        I'm dealing with metered 20Mb/s right now, and it is dog slow AND they burst over 20Mb/s and bill you.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @bnrstnr
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                                          @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                          I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point. What are you doing in a colo (lab expecially), that you need more than 10/10?

                                          For $30 a month you can do a lot of stuff on Vultr...

                                          I can do even more on my 1U server.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                            @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            The price is not horrible. BUT....

                                            10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                                            What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

                                            I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point.

                                            It's just horrible. Price point not important. At some point, even for free, the speed is too slow to really consider it.

                                            No, it is not. What workload are you using that needs that speed? Unless it is file services, nothing will use it.

                                            We hit it with things like backups, every few hours.

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