Solved Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter
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@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@brrabill said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@momurda said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
What is the point of OneDrive if you cant mount it as a drive letter easily?
Someone please explain. It seems absoultely horrible.Why woudl you want it as a drive letter? The drive letter is an old holdover that isn't very good. You can mount OneDrive as a folder which is better most of the time.
Assuming that OneDrive syncing actually works, which generally it is pretty poor.
I find OneDrive itself (the consumer one) works great.
ODfB, though ... LOOKOUT!
Hah, yeah that's the one I was speaking toward. Assumed that is what is being brought up here since it's for a business. I could be wrong though.
But yeah, ODfB... wow. I hear it's a little better but I've completely written it off as of late.
Besides Scott's problems, what issues are yall talking about? Honestly, we have had very little issues with Exchange Online and SharePoint Online over the course of 2-3 years.
Referring to OneDrive for Business syncing. Outside of SharePoint Online, speaking only to the ODfB syncing; it'll often just break for no apparent reason and stop syncing to workstations.
Not really concerned with syncing, but wanting to use it similarly to a networked drive on a hosted server instead of an on-prem server.
WebDAV. Acts just like any mapped drive.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@brrabill said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@momurda said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
What is the point of OneDrive if you cant mount it as a drive letter easily?
Someone please explain. It seems absoultely horrible.Why woudl you want it as a drive letter? The drive letter is an old holdover that isn't very good. You can mount OneDrive as a folder which is better most of the time.
Assuming that OneDrive syncing actually works, which generally it is pretty poor.
I find OneDrive itself (the consumer one) works great.
ODfB, though ... LOOKOUT!
Hah, yeah that's the one I was speaking toward. Assumed that is what is being brought up here since it's for a business. I could be wrong though.
But yeah, ODfB... wow. I hear it's a little better but I've completely written it off as of late.
Besides Scott's problems, what issues are yall talking about? Honestly, we have had very little issues with Exchange Online and SharePoint Online over the course of 2-3 years.
Referring to OneDrive for Business syncing. Outside of SharePoint Online, speaking only to the ODfB syncing; it'll often just break for no apparent reason and stop syncing to workstations.
Not really concerned with syncing, but wanting to use it similarly to a networked drive on a hosted server instead of an on-prem server.
WebDAV. Acts just like any mapped drive.
That's what I started thinking, but that isn't focusing on OD/ODfB; that goes beyond a single client and focuses on central delivery. Used it for uploading/downloading unsupported file types in regards to SharePoint; couldn't upload to SharePoint, but WebDAV didn't balk.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@brrabill said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@momurda said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
What is the point of OneDrive if you cant mount it as a drive letter easily?
Someone please explain. It seems absoultely horrible.Why woudl you want it as a drive letter? The drive letter is an old holdover that isn't very good. You can mount OneDrive as a folder which is better most of the time.
Assuming that OneDrive syncing actually works, which generally it is pretty poor.
I find OneDrive itself (the consumer one) works great.
ODfB, though ... LOOKOUT!
Hah, yeah that's the one I was speaking toward. Assumed that is what is being brought up here since it's for a business. I could be wrong though.
But yeah, ODfB... wow. I hear it's a little better but I've completely written it off as of late.
Besides Scott's problems, what issues are yall talking about? Honestly, we have had very little issues with Exchange Online and SharePoint Online over the course of 2-3 years.
Referring to OneDrive for Business syncing. Outside of SharePoint Online, speaking only to the ODfB syncing; it'll often just break for no apparent reason and stop syncing to workstations.
Not really concerned with syncing, but wanting to use it similarly to a networked drive on a hosted server instead of an on-prem server.
WebDAV. Acts just like any mapped drive.
Yes, that has been the suggestion I have used and done for customers that want to use Sharepoint as a mapped drive...
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@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@brrabill said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@bbigford said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@momurda said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
What is the point of OneDrive if you cant mount it as a drive letter easily?
Someone please explain. It seems absoultely horrible.Why woudl you want it as a drive letter? The drive letter is an old holdover that isn't very good. You can mount OneDrive as a folder which is better most of the time.
Assuming that OneDrive syncing actually works, which generally it is pretty poor.
I find OneDrive itself (the consumer one) works great.
ODfB, though ... LOOKOUT!
Hah, yeah that's the one I was speaking toward. Assumed that is what is being brought up here since it's for a business. I could be wrong though.
But yeah, ODfB... wow. I hear it's a little better but I've completely written it off as of late.
Besides Scott's problems, what issues are yall talking about? Honestly, we have had very little issues with Exchange Online and SharePoint Online over the course of 2-3 years.
Referring to OneDrive for Business syncing. Outside of SharePoint Online, speaking only to the ODfB syncing; it'll often just break for no apparent reason and stop syncing to workstations.
Not really concerned with syncing, but wanting to use it similarly to a networked drive on a hosted server instead of an on-prem server.
WebDAV. Acts just like any mapped drive.
That's what I started thinking, but that isn't focusing on OD/ODfB; that goes beyond a single client and focuses on central delivery. Used it for uploading/downloading unsupported file types in regards to SharePoint; couldn't upload to SharePoint, but WebDAV didn't balk.
Yeah, to the OS, WebDav looks just like SMB or NFS.
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Breaking the habit of mapped drives is huge for users.
Moving them to opening applications, applications which are OD4B aware and pull in those mappings automatically I would think could solve these types of issues.
But the mapped folder as Scott suggested is no different in function than a mapped drive letter. What I'm curious about is performance. Local network shares are near instant. Downloading even a 1 meg file will be noticeable over an internet connection, most of the time compared to local.
And a mapped anything, letter/folder/webdav - still suffer cryptoware crawling the drive encrypting crap.
If the server has shadowcopy or similar, this can be worked around... but still a bad thing to deal with. -
I've tried to give up mapped drives and move away from a traditional file server to OD4B and Sharepoint, but ultimately I prefer the speed and convenience of mapped drives to a local file server, as do 99% of users. I just don't like OD4B/SP.
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@carnival-boy said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
I've tried to give up mapped drives and move away from a traditional file server to OD4B and Sharepoint, but ultimately I prefer the speed and convenience of mapped drives to a local file server, as do 99% of users. I just don't like OD4B/SP.
That's a lot of changes at once. That's testing local mapped drives versus remote alternative. But local modern might be better than either. You issue with performance isn't fixed by being mapped but by being local.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@carnival-boy said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
I've tried to give up mapped drives and move away from a traditional file server to OD4B and Sharepoint, but ultimately I prefer the speed and convenience of mapped drives to a local file server, as do 99% of users. I just don't like OD4B/SP.
That's a lot of changes at once. That's testing local mapped drives versus remote alternative. But local modern might be better than either. You issue with performance isn't fixed by being mapped but by being local.
So what's the solution? Sync clients? /sigh - man I just hate that idea.
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@dashrender said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@carnival-boy said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
I've tried to give up mapped drives and move away from a traditional file server to OD4B and Sharepoint, but ultimately I prefer the speed and convenience of mapped drives to a local file server, as do 99% of users. I just don't like OD4B/SP.
That's a lot of changes at once. That's testing local mapped drives versus remote alternative. But local modern might be better than either. You issue with performance isn't fixed by being mapped but by being local.
So what's the solution? Sync clients? /sigh - man I just hate that idea.
That's "a" solution, yes. But not the natural one. The starting points for testing would be testing local vs. remote; and network file server vs. alternative separately to determine which pieces are the problems and which are not. Maybe both are, maybe just one.
It's like any testing scenarios. You need to change only one piece at a time if you want to determine what's wrong.
He mentioned specifically the speed of mapped drives, but mapped drives aren't faster. They are only associated with speed because they are so often local - specifically because they are so slow when remote. Mapped drives are actually generally the slower technology. It's just so tremendously slow over a WAN that people discount it as even being viable.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
They are only associated with speed because they are so often local - specifically because they are so slow when remote. Mapped drives are actually generally the slower technology.
I don't know about that. I've used on-premise Sharepoint but still find it slower to browse and locate the file I want. If you have a large number of files, Sharepoint can be better because of its more advanced search capabilities. But with the relatively small number of files a typical user might have, organising by mapped drive and subfolders is often quicker, at least in my experience.
You can improve the Sharepoint experience by spending the time and effort to implement and maintain it correctly. But that's a lot of time and effort, so you have to have factor in that overhead when comparing the two solutions. Also factor in user training and support. "Speed" isn't just about network performance.
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@carnival-boy said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
You can improve the Sharepoint experience by spending the time and effort to implement and maintain it correctly.
Yes, Sharepoint is extremely slow, that's just Sharepoint.
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@carnival-boy said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
But with the relatively small number of files a typical user might have, organising by mapped drive and subfolders is often quicker, at least in my experience.
Keep in mind that, while this negates many of the points of these products, that Sharepoint, Nextcloud and many of these can expose as mapped drives - and are faster over a slow connection than traditional mapped drives.
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Did you try sync clients? The problem with moving away from mapped drives is like moving away from relational databases... we only define what we are "not" doing but there are many options of alternatives. So it's not one things versus another, it's one thing vs everything else.
What we do for our own is sync clients which allows our users to have local folders just like they are used to, and local speeds that are faster than mapped drives, and work offline for mobility.
Downside is local storage is used.
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So, update on my original topic.
@coliver said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
This is the script I am using. It works fairly well.
This script apparently broke about 3-4 months ago because of something that MS has changed within their systems. However, the author suggested IAM Cloud Drive Mapper for production use. If you use him as a reference, you get 25% off for the first year.
I am trying it out for 2 weeks, but it requires a client on the person's computer along with some alterations to the registry of the RDP servers. Not entirely comfortable with that.
My next option would be to place a shortcut on the desktop that will point to OneDrive for Business for the user to upload their files.
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@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
I am trying it out for 2 weeks, but it requires a client on the person's computer along with some alterations to the registry of the RDP servers. Not entirely comfortable with that.
Yuck. You're right to be uncomfortable. And, of course, at some point Microsoft will change something else and it will break this too.
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@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
So, update on my original topic.
@coliver said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
This is the script I am using. It works fairly well.
This script apparently broke about 3-4 months ago because of something that MS has changed within their systems. However, the author suggested IAM Cloud Drive Mapper for production use. If you use him as a reference, you get 25% off for the first year.
I am trying it out for 2 weeks, but it requires a client on the person's computer along with some alterations to the registry of the RDP servers. Not entirely comfortable with that.
My next option would be to place a shortcut on the desktop that will point to OneDrive for Business for the user to upload their files.
Hmm I JUST used it with no issue.
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@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
This script apparently broke about 3-4 months ago because of something that MS has changed within their systems. However, the author suggested IAM Cloud Drive Mapper for production use. If you use him as a reference, you get 25% off for the first year.
Did you try the script? I've been using it non-stop (and upgrading it) for the past 1-1.5 years. On my work computer to connect to my onedrive system. Not sure what changed but it doesn't appear to be affecting me.
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@carnival-boy said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
@nerdydad said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
I am trying it out for 2 weeks, but it requires a client on the person's computer along with some alterations to the registry of the RDP servers. Not entirely comfortable with that.
Yuck. You're right to be uncomfortable. And, of course, at some point Microsoft will change something else and it will break this too.
That's sadly accurate.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:
Did you try sync clients? The problem with moving away from mapped drives is like moving away from relational databases... we only define what we are "not" doing but there are many options of alternatives. So it's not one things versus another, it's one thing vs everything else.
What we do for our own is sync clients which allows our users to have local folders just like they are used to, and local speeds that are faster than mapped drives, and work offline for mobility.
Downside is local storage is used.
How do you deal with a large'ish shared drive?
We have a 100 GB (yeah I know not huge) shared drive. If everyone synced that, what would my chances of having a problem caused by two people editing the same file? We have many documents that are edited by many people. So this collision would be a huge problem for us.
in otherwords - does file lock go across these sync'ed files in Sharepoint/NC? -
With the wonderful help of @JackCPickup, we were able to use the script previously mentioned that I thought broke. One of my coworkers has been able to confirm that it works for them as well, as is. Perfect!
Now, next task is to automate the execution of the script when the user logs in.
