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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
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      @stacksofplates said in Testing oVirt...:

      @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

      @francesco-provino This is a 3 + 1 node hyperconverged cluster with Gluster, HA, Live Migration etc!

      That's what I was wondering. I didn't know if it was a self hosted engine (couldn't think of the name last night) or multiple node setup.

      This setup uses the Hosted Engine.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @Emad R
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        @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

        @fateknollogee

        Very good more pics and stuff please, did you face any hosts disconnections I faced that alot

        No host disconnections at all.
        The current version (4.2.5) is very easy to setup.
        I will post some pics of an upcoming version, oVirt Node (4.3) based on Fedora 28.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee
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          oVirt Node v4.3 (based on Fedora 28) - this is pre-release:

          0_1533637604798_gluster_deployment.png

          0_1533637615089_step2_fqdns.png

          0_1533637623806_step3_packages.png

          0_1533637637986_step4_volumes.png

          0_1533637646286_step5_bricks.png

          0_1533637654853_step5_bricks_2.png

          0_1533637662108_step6_review.png

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            So you're saying ovirt is pushing the Xen guys to get into gear as this appears to be the entire package, with FOSS.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
              last edited by FATeknollogee

              @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

              So you're saying ovirt is pushing the Xen guys to get into gear as this appears to be the entire package, with FOSS.

              I believe oVirt is being billed as "vSphere for FOSS"

              You're probably not going to move the Xen/XS/XCP-ng guys off their spot.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
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                Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                  Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                  ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                  I tried setting up oVirt a few versions ago and from what I could find, it's almost expected you have a minimum of 3 physical hosts for it.

                  So no, you won't be able to manage a standalone KVM server since everything has to get built to be managed by the oVirt Engine.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                    Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                    ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                    Unfortunately not.

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                    • Emad RE
                      Emad R @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @fateknollogee

                      Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                      saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                      What type of Gluster volume are you using, just distributed ?

                      I m still learning HCI so thus the beginner vibe

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                      • Emad RE
                        Emad R @Francesco Provino
                        last edited by

                        @francesco-provino said in Testing oVirt...:

                        Any real advantage vs plain KVM?

                        Scaling KVM basically, if you have 1 or 2 KVM servers thats fine, but if you want more you need better management that logging in each one.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @Emad R
                          last edited by

                          @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                          @fateknollogee

                          Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                          saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                          What type of Gluster volume are you using, just distributed ?

                          I m still learning HCI so thus the beginner vibe

                          No RAID6, I'm using RAID10.

                          Gluster volume is Replicate + Arbiter

                          This is a good blog post to get you started: https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2018/02/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-2-and-gluster-storage/

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                            Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                            ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                            I tried setting up oVirt a few versions ago and from what I could find, it's almost expected you have a minimum of 3 physical hosts for it.

                            So no, you won't be able to manage a standalone KVM server since everything has to get built to be managed by the oVirt Engine.

                            You can now do a single host w Gluster:
                            https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/gluster-hyperconverged/chap-Single_node_hyperconverged/

                            Here's a screenshot of my single node install:
                            0_1533646725168_screenshot_27.png

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @Emad R
                              last edited by

                              @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                              @fateknollogee

                              Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                              Not sure, since I'm new to the whole Gluster concept.

                              saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                              Hardware RAID is recommended instead of MDADM.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                  Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

                                  Nope...
                                  The folks at RH say, currently, performance is better with HW RAID & that is how most of their testing/validation is done.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                    Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

                                    Nope...
                                    The folks at RH say, currently, performance is better with HW RAID & that is how most of their testing/validation is done.

                                    That's odd, but okay. I would generally think they make the recommendation because they know there is a huge lack of understanding on how software raid needs to be managed.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @Emad R
                                      last edited by travisdh1

                                      @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @fateknollogee

                                      Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                                      I'm guessing you really don't know much about Gluster and it's history?
                                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluster

                                      Think of it like RAID, but spread over a network instead of locally. It's been around since 2005, and is used by some very large cloud providers today.

                                      So I feel totally safe with it, and actually deployed it once. Great platform when it's needed, and a complete waste of time when it's not.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @fateknollogee

                                        Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                                        I'm guessing you really don't know much about Gluster and it's history?
                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluster

                                        Think of it like RAID, but spread over a network instead of locally. It's been around since 2005, and is used by some very large cloud providers today.

                                        So I feel totally safe with it, and actually deployed it once. Great platform when it's needed, and a complete waste of time when it's not.

                                        That and Gluster is not a replacement for good backups. 😄

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                          Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

                                          Nope...
                                          The folks at RH say, currently, performance is better with HW RAID & that is how most of their testing/validation is done.

                                          That's odd, but okay. I would generally think they make the recommendation because they know there is a huge lack of understanding on how software raid needs to be managed.

                                          I'm also guessing it's because RAID isn't necessarily needed. The overhead for software RAID doesn't gain much if you're bricks are replicated anyway.

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
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                                            3 + 1 node hyperconverged: Volume layout

                                            0_1533667561288_screenshot_28.png

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