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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
      last edited by FATeknollogee

      Starting to test some backups of vm's on oVirt & standalone KVM:

      vProtect 3.6
      0_1534446893494_vp36.png

      oVirt VMs:
      0_1534446962370_ovirt.png

      Standalone KVM VMs:
      0_1534446987121_kvm.png

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      • RomoR
        Romo @FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

        0_1534462428890_storware-vprotect.png

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Romo
          last edited by

          @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

            @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

            Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Romo
              last edited by

              @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

              @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

              What is a stand alone KVM host? I'm not seeing it
              https://storware.gitbook.io/storware-vprotect

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by

                Trial sign up form
                https://storware.eu/en/contact-2/

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                  @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

                  @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

                  What is a stand alone KVM host? I'm not seeing it
                  https://storware.gitbook.io/storware-vprotect

                  Standalone meaning your "normal" Virt-manager style KVM install.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @Romo
                    last edited by

                    @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

                    @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

                    I'll update you tomorrow after I test some restores.
                    I've backed up a few vm's to AWS S3 & to on-prem servers.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
                      last edited by FATeknollogee

                      @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                      Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                      If you don't like "Agentless" this product is not for you....(not you @JaredBusch )

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                        @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                        @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

                        @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

                        What is a stand alone KVM host? I'm not seeing it
                        https://storware.gitbook.io/storware-vprotect

                        Standalone meaning your "normal" Virt-manager style KVM install.

                        Seems like anything not clustered.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                          @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

                          Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                          Non-ideal isn't the same as useless. This is why these discussions are difficult. Why does something not being "the best for most cases" turn into "useless" as what people hear?

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                          • matteo nunziatiM
                            matteo nunziati @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

                            Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                            May I upvote this 100 times... 😄

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                              @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                              Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                              If you don't like "Agentless" this product is not for you....(not you @JaredBusch )

                              Jared likes Agentless. I tend to not like them, it's non-portable. And that specific thing hits us already with our current backups at some clients. So to address limitations of their existing agentless system, and their mix of hypervisors, kludges like this are necessary. Or a move off of their current agentless infrastructure that they paid a lot for.

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                              • matteo nunziatiM
                                matteo nunziati @Romo
                                last edited by

                                @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
                                  last edited by

                                  @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

                                  Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                                  May I upvote this 100 times... 😄

                                  Stop acting like I've ever said this. I said agent based is often better, and in the example here I just demonstrated why agentless caused a need for two backup systems instead of one. Please don't encouraging repeating things that people don't say, because some people actually start to believe that that has been said, they are that gullible.

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                                  • matteo nunziatiM
                                    matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller hey it was a smiling face. It was intended as a joke!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
                                      last edited by

                                      @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @scottalanmiller hey it was a smiling face. It was intended as a joke!

                                      I get it, but people start to repeat that stuff quickly and truly start to believe that there is a group who thinks that things are black and white and certain things that should be grey areas are actually black and white. Like instead of "agentless is rarely the best option" people start to believe "agent based is the only option." Or at least believe that a group of people claim such. It's happened a lot. RAID is a good example.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @matteo nunziati
                                        last edited by

                                        @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

                                        CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

                                          CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.

                                          Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

                                            CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.

                                            Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.

                                            Which backup software were you using when it was enabled?

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