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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

      @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

      Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Romo
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        @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

        @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

        What is a stand alone KVM host? I'm not seeing it
        https://storware.gitbook.io/storware-vprotect

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          Trial sign up form
          https://storware.eu/en/contact-2/

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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            @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

            @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

            @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

            What is a stand alone KVM host? I'm not seeing it
            https://storware.gitbook.io/storware-vprotect

            Standalone meaning your "normal" Virt-manager style KVM install.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @Romo
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              @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

              @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

              I'll update you tomorrow after I test some restores.
              I've backed up a few vm's to AWS S3 & to on-prem servers.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
                last edited by FATeknollogee

                @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                If you don't like "Agentless" this product is not for you....(not you @JaredBusch )

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                  @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                  @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                  @romo said in Testing oVirt...:

                  @fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).

                  What is a stand alone KVM host? I'm not seeing it
                  https://storware.gitbook.io/storware-vprotect

                  Standalone meaning your "normal" Virt-manager style KVM install.

                  Seems like anything not clustered.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                    @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

                    Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                    Non-ideal isn't the same as useless. This is why these discussions are difficult. Why does something not being "the best for most cases" turn into "useless" as what people hear?

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                    • matteo nunziatiM
                      matteo nunziati @JaredBusch
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                      @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                      @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

                      Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                      May I upvote this 100 times... 😄

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                        @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                        Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                        If you don't like "Agentless" this product is not for you....(not you @JaredBusch )

                        Jared likes Agentless. I tend to not like them, it's non-portable. And that specific thing hits us already with our current backups at some clients. So to address limitations of their existing agentless system, and their mix of hypervisors, kludges like this are necessary. Or a move off of their current agentless infrastructure that they paid a lot for.

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                        • matteo nunziatiM
                          matteo nunziati @Romo
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                          @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                            @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                            @romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.

                            Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.

                            May I upvote this 100 times... 😄

                            Stop acting like I've ever said this. I said agent based is often better, and in the example here I just demonstrated why agentless caused a need for two backup systems instead of one. Please don't encouraging repeating things that people don't say, because some people actually start to believe that that has been said, they are that gullible.

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                            • matteo nunziatiM
                              matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller hey it was a smiling face. It was intended as a joke!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                                @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                @scottalanmiller hey it was a smiling face. It was intended as a joke!

                                I get it, but people start to repeat that stuff quickly and truly start to believe that there is a group who thinks that things are black and white and certain things that should be grey areas are actually black and white. Like instead of "agentless is rarely the best option" people start to believe "agent based is the only option." Or at least believe that a group of people claim such. It's happened a lot. RAID is a good example.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @matteo nunziati
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                                  @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

                                  CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                    @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

                                    CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.

                                    Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.

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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite @DustinB3403
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                                      @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

                                      CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.

                                      Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.

                                      Which backup software were you using when it was enabled?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @black3dynamite
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                                        @black3dynamite said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT

                                        CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.

                                        Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.

                                        Which backup software were you using when it was enabled?

                                        This was a combination, Xen Orchestra and something else for the file level ( I don't recall which atm ) but it was a name brand one. Maybe it was Backup Exec ( I honestly can't remember )

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee
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                                          Backup report via email:

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
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                                            Backup & Restore...

                                            Fedora 28 vm (in my homelab), full backup was taken this afternoon:
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                                            I restored the vm to a different Fedora 28 host (at the co-lo)
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                                            On the left is the original vm (homelab), on the right is the "restored" vm (co-lo)
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