Testing oVirt...
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@jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:
Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.
If you don't like "Agentless" this product is not for you....(not you @JaredBusch )
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@fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:
@jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo said in Testing oVirt...:
@fateknollogee Free for standalone KVM hosts, this seems interesting. Please share your testing results =).
What is a stand alone KVM host? I'm not seeing it
https://storware.gitbook.io/storware-vprotectStandalone meaning your "normal" Virt-manager style KVM install.
Seems like anything not clustered.
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@jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:
@scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.
Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.
Non-ideal isn't the same as useless. This is why these discussions are difficult. Why does something not being "the best for most cases" turn into "useless" as what people hear?
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@jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:
@scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.
Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.
May I upvote this 100 times...
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@fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:
@jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:
Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.
If you don't like "Agentless" this product is not for you....(not you @JaredBusch )
Jared likes Agentless. I tend to not like them, it's non-portable. And that specific thing hits us already with our current backups at some clients. So to address limitations of their existing agentless system, and their mix of hypervisors, kludges like this are necessary. Or a move off of their current agentless infrastructure that they paid a lot for.
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@romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT
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@matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:
@jaredbusch said in Testing oVirt...:
@scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo we've got several places where we might want to use that, and more soon.
Why? Agentless VM Level backups are useless. You've said that often enough.
May I upvote this 100 times...
Stop acting like I've ever said this. I said agent based is often better, and in the example here I just demonstrated why agentless caused a need for two backup systems instead of one. Please don't encouraging repeating things that people don't say, because some people actually start to believe that that has been said, they are that gullible.
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@scottalanmiller hey it was a smiling face. It was intended as a joke!
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@matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:
@scottalanmiller hey it was a smiling face. It was intended as a joke!
I get it, but people start to repeat that stuff quickly and truly start to believe that there is a group who thinks that things are black and white and certain things that should be grey areas are actually black and white. Like instead of "agentless is rarely the best option" people start to believe "agent based is the only option." Or at least believe that a group of people claim such. It's happened a lot. RAID is a good example.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT
CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.
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@fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:
@matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT
CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.
Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.
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@dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:
@fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:
@matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT
CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.
Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.
Which backup software were you using when it was enabled?
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@black3dynamite said in Testing oVirt...:
@dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:
@fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:
@matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:
@romo unfortunately the free one has not CBT
CBT (in the o/s) is "rumored" to be coming in the 7.6 release of RHEL/CentOS.
Which will be awesome. Windows Server 2016 has this, but it doesn't work well. I had it setup previously and it corrupted our test share. We had to disable it and revert to our backup.
Which backup software were you using when it was enabled?
This was a combination, Xen Orchestra and something else for the file level ( I don't recall which atm ) but it was a name brand one. Maybe it was Backup Exec ( I honestly can't remember )
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Backup report via email:
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Backup & Restore...
Fedora 28 vm (in my homelab), full backup was taken this afternoon:
I restored the vm to a different Fedora 28 host (at the co-lo)
On the left is the original vm (homelab), on the right is the "restored" vm (co-lo)
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Installing/testing oVirt 4.2.6:
- 3 node gluster (hyperconverged)
- this install is "nested" on a Fedora 28 host
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I've loosey been reading the posts on this but what is oVirt? Is it just a management thing for KVM or is it and KVM based hypervisor in it's self?
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I'm not using LV Cache, Compression or Dedupe, but it is available:
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@hobbit666 said in Testing oVirt...:
I've loosey been reading the posts on this but what is oVirt? Is it just a management thing for KVM or is it and KVM based hypervisor in it's self?
Think of it as the KVM equivalent of vmWare vSphere.
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So would you only use it in a "cluster" of servers?
