HA With switches
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@PhlipElder said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@PhlipElder said in HA With switches:
We live in an era where we get what we pay for.
I've found this to be about the polar opposite of reality. Look at operating systems, the free ones are best, the paid ones are worst - not that Windows is "bad", it's just not up to par with paid options, all OSes are pretty decent today, but when the free ones do the best.... Look at networking hardware, the highest cost is Cisco which is often the worst vendor, and the cheapest reasonable ones are often the best. The higher performance processors aren't the most expensive. And on, and on.
I'd say it's more often inverted... you get the opposite of what you pay for.
There's always going to be exceptions to any rule.
We work with ISPs that deploy Catalyst switches into our client sites. There's one site where the WiFi ISP connection piggybacks off of another ISP's system. The other ISP has an ancient Catalyst that keeps locking up every once in a while. That's one example of an issue with a Cisco product yet it can't be faulted as the switch is probably way more than ten years old. We've got fibre and coax going into that business park so we'll be parking that ISP connection into a secondary role at some point so we've not really pursued a switch change with them yet ...
For the most part though, we rarely encounter issues with Catalyst switches.
Old is old, anything ancient is going to start having problems either from lack of updates, wear and tear, or just general aging.
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@PhlipElder said in HA With switches:
But, to back up what is being said the last two hotels in different cities I've stayed in that are the same hotel chain using Cisco Meraki WiFi have been nothing but grief. Whether that particular chain has chosen to leave the on-premises WiFi die or the folks supporting it are not doing a great job or the product is just plain crap is left to be said.
Yeah, we typically remove Meraki and install Ubiquiti. Customers ask us to fix something and find that the price tag of a new install is often less than keeping what they already have. Meraki typically works fine, but the cost is just absurd.
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@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
So a close up on the Edge switch there will be 2 cables coming in. 1 from Core1 and 1 from Core2.Do i need to configure something special on the switch or will modern switches just know they are coming from switches that are stacked in HA mode?
So just to confirm my thinking,
Ignoring what the Core switches will be for now. If i have one SPF+ Fibre/Copper from Core1 and other from Core2 going into the two SPF+ ports on the EdgeSwitch and i have Spanning Tree and Trunk them correctly, this should be fine?
As when i compare a Netgear S3300 48 port to the 48 port Edgeswitch there is about £300 difference (Netgear being more expensive). -
@hobbit666 Netgear's matching model would not be the S3300 but the GC752X.
Which is $500, so probably a bit cheaper again.
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@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 Netgear's matching model would not be the S3300 but the GC752X.
Which is $500, so probably a bit cheaper again.
So is that GC752X better than the S3300?
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@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 Netgear's matching model would not be the S3300 but the GC752X
Wouldn't it be the GC752XP model as the EdgeSwitch has PoE
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@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 Netgear's matching model would not be the S3300 but the GC752X.
Which is $500, so probably a bit cheaper again.
So is that GC752X better than the S3300?
It's at least the model meant to be comparable. It's much newer, as well.
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@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 Netgear's matching model would not be the S3300 but the GC752X
Wouldn't it be the GC752XP model as the EdgeSwitch has PoE
If you are looking for PoE, yes.
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@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 Netgear's matching model would not be the S3300 but the GC752X
Wouldn't it be the GC752XP model as the EdgeSwitch has PoE
Edgeswitches come in non PoE too.
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@Donahue said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 Netgear's matching model would not be the S3300 but the GC752X
Wouldn't it be the GC752XP model as the EdgeSwitch has PoE
Edgeswitches come in non PoE too.
Yeah, that's why I compared the base model.
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So how did the final price comparison come out?
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Any opinion on Dell all-sfp switches? The "S" series...
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@Francesco-Provino said in HA With switches:
Any opinion on Dell all-sfp switches? The "S" series...
Doesn’t Ubiquiti have those too?
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@Dashrender said in HA With switches:
@Francesco-Provino said in HA With switches:
Any opinion on Dell all-sfp switches? The "S" series...
Doesn’t Ubiquiti have those too?
Yes, but only low density. They max out at 12 ports.
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Another things that got me confused. SPF+ modules.
I can see Ubiquiti SPF+ 10G MultiMode modules are £40 odd for a 2 pack.But a Fibre module for Netgear are £200+ each
Aruba £600 odd
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@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
Another things that got me confused. SPF+ modules.
I can see Ubiquiti SPF+ 10G MultiMode modules are £40 odd for a 2 pack.But a Fibre module for Netgear are £200+ each
Aruba £600 odd
Just normal differences in pricing.
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@scottalanmiller That's a big ass difference
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@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller That's a big ass difference
Looks like about normal to me. Yes, big difference in price for the same thing.
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@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller That's a big ass difference
Yup, that's how vendors typically are.
If you think that's something, compare a Ubiquiti router to a slower Cisco. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
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@scottalanmiller said in HA With switches:
@hobbit666 said in HA With switches:
@scottalanmiller That's a big ass difference
Yup, that's how vendors typically are.
If you think that's something, compare a Ubiquiti router to a slower Cisco. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Last I looked it was Ubiquiti $200 to a Cisco $7000. The Ubiquiti being usable, the Cisco questionable, just looking at the processors used.
