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      scottalanmiller @dyasny
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      @dyasny said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

      @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

      Yeah, but most good people stop paying attention to them. I have hundreds, but not a single one can figure out what country I'm in or how to tell me about relevant jobs. The size of the pool doesn't do any of them any good, they can't identify skills, location, interest, etc.

      In the SMB space, people actually struggle a lot to find recruiters that can handle them. Finding anyone recruiting outside of the key metros is actually quite hard.

      Maybe, I'm not in SMB, and haven't been in over a decade, so I don't know. And the only companies I would go for are either very serious brands in the industry or startups that I have inside information about being potentially very successful. Also, I simply mark myself as belonging to a large metro area, even if I'm out in the suburbs and have no intention of commuting to the office every day. Been working from home for 99% of the time for the past 10 years, and I see no reason to change that

      Yeah, but where do you "mark" things? It's not like there is some universal place to mark things. Every place that I have to mark things has be in Europe or LATAM, and I live in Texas, and that's all pretty obvious and public, but no recruiter I've ever seen uses any of those sources and just assumes places that I neither live in, nor or really from, nor consider going to.

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        dyasny @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

        Yeah, but where do you "mark" things? It's not like there is some universal place to mark things. Every place that I have to mark things has be in Europe or LATAM, and I live in Texas, and that's all pretty obvious and public, but no recruiter I've ever seen uses any of those sources and just assumes places that I neither live in, nor or really from, nor consider going to.

        LI has a location field you fill out in the profile, for example

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          scottalanmiller @dyasny
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          @dyasny said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

          @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

          Yeah, but where do you "mark" things? It's not like there is some universal place to mark things. Every place that I have to mark things has be in Europe or LATAM, and I live in Texas, and that's all pretty obvious and public, but no recruiter I've ever seen uses any of those sources and just assumes places that I neither live in, nor or really from, nor consider going to.

          LI has a location field you fill out in the profile, for example

          Yeah, that's one that I'm specifically thinking of. That specifically they seem to universally ignore.

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            dyasny @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

            Yeah, that's one that I'm specifically thinking of. That specifically they seem to universally ignore.

            Seems to work for me quite well 🙂

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              scottalanmiller @dyasny
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              @dyasny said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

              @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

              Yeah, that's one that I'm specifically thinking of. That specifically they seem to universally ignore.

              Seems to work for me quite well 🙂

              Maybe if you reach out and try to search for jobs. But working the other way, only being reached by people trying to get me to work with them, it's completely useless (not that I ever was on LI for that purpose.)

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                dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                Maybe if you reach out and try to search for jobs. But working the other way, only being reached by people trying to get me to work with them, it's completely useless (not that I ever was on LI for that purpose.)

                It's been over 5 years since I last went actually sending CVs out 🙂 So it's pretty much recruiters pinging me all the time

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                  @dyasny said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                  Maybe if you reach out and try to search for jobs. But working the other way, only being reached by people trying to get me to work with them, it's completely useless (not that I ever was on LI for that purpose.)

                  It's been over 5 years since I last went actually sending CVs out 🙂 So it's pretty much recruiters pinging me all the time

                  Most recruiters sending me things don't even state where the job is. It's a weird thing I've found, like they think that there is only one market in the whole world and that I'll just know where they must mean.

                  My first question is always "what country is this for"?

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                    dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                    Most recruiters sending me things don't even state where the job is. It's a weird thing I've found, like they think that there is only one market in the whole world and that I'll just know where they must mean.

                    My first question is always "what country is this for"?

                    Strange, I typically see them specifying the city or whether or not the job is remote from the very start. There was a bit of initial confusion when I moved countries several times, but it straightens out quite quickly

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                      scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                      @dyasny said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                      Most recruiters sending me things don't even state where the job is. It's a weird thing I've found, like they think that there is only one market in the whole world and that I'll just know where they must mean.

                      My first question is always "what country is this for"?

                      Strange, I typically see them specifying the city or whether or not the job is remote from the very start. There was a bit of initial confusion when I moved countries several times, but it straightens out quite quickly

                      Definitely many do specify, but an absurd number do not.

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                        wwalker817
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                        Let it be known that I may be the first account manager/recruiter to get on this forum along side Landry Morren. lol Thank you Paul and Landry for introducing me to this site. My name is Weston Walker and I'm an account manager for Diversant here in Irving. If anyone is a hiring manager and looking for IT candidates (Contract, Contract to perm. or perm.) for an upcoming project or just in general, please feel free to reach out to me. If you are looking to make a change in your career, I can connect you with one of our in-house recruiters and assist as well. I'm really looking forward to networking on here and please feel free to reach out anytime.

                        Weston Walker
                        Diversant, LLC
                        Email: wwalker@Diversant.com
                        Cell phone: (817) 729-5978

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                          jmoore @wwalker817
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                          @wwalker817 Hey nice to meet you!

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                            wwalker817 @jmoore
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                            @jmoore Thanks and nice to meet you as well!

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                              scottalanmiller @wwalker817
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                              @wwalker817 said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                              Let it be known that I may be the first account manager/recruiter to get on this forum along side Landry Morren. lol Thank you Paul and Landry for introducing me to this site. My name is Weston Walker and I'm an account manager for Diversant here in Irving. If anyone is a hiring manager and looking for IT candidates (Contract, Contract to perm. or perm.) for an upcoming project or just in general, please feel free to reach out to me. If you are looking to make a change in your career, I can connect you with one of our in-house recruiters and assist as well. I'm really looking forward to networking on here and please feel free to reach out anytime.

                              Weston Walker
                              Diversant, LLC
                              Email: wwalker@Diversant.com
                              Cell phone: (817) 729-5978

                              Awesome, welcome to the community!

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                                wwalker817 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Thanks for having me!

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                                  dafyre @wwalker817
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                                  @wwalker817 said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                                  @scottalanmiller Thanks for having me!

                                  Welcome to the madhouse club! Feel free to actually take part and all so we know you're not a robot. 😄

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                                    wwalker817 @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre "Select the picture(s) below that have a street sign in it." Hahaha
                                    Thanks and glad to be a member of the club.

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                                      DustinB3403 @wwalker817
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                                      @wwalker817 said in Why Do Recruiters Never Get Involved in Forums Like This:

                                      @dafyre "Select the picture(s) below that have a street sign in it." Hahaha
                                      Thanks and glad to be a member of the club.

                                      Seriously, we do have that functionality. Miss one and you're done for!

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                                        lmorren1148
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                                        I just heard about this page yesterday. I work as an Account Manager at Diversant; I work with Weston, who commented above.

                                        Although I am not a recruiter, I would be more than happy to sit down with anyone over lunch, coffee, a happy hour, etc. who would be willing to help me improve my knowledge of current technologies. That way I can also arm my recruiters with better information for their search. Just putting people in chairs, or throwing tons of candidates at managers just hoping one will stick, is not how I like to do business. I want to make sure that there is a good fit for both my clients as well as the candidates I submit. I get that many recruiters/staffing companies have a bad rap, but I try my best to differentiate myself by getting involved in communities like this. If anyone would be interested please feel free to send me a chat on this site, and I'd be happy to pass my contact info along and get something set up!

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                                          scottalanmiller @lmorren1148
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                                          @lmorren1148 welcome!!

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                                            lmorren1148 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller Thank you! I wish I had found out about this site sooner. I look forward to getting more involved with this community and learning more about the industry.

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