Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account
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@Donahue said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@travisdh1 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@gjacobse said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
The need for an 'online account' is ridiculous.. stupid MS.
There is not a need. but a strong ass push.
For typical home users - it's likely just better for them to use an MS account. In the business world - if we choose domain, all that other shit should go the hell away!
My biggest peeve with it is them asking for the password when setting up an account for someone else.
For domain computers, I always setup the first account for my own use as the admin. End users never use local account. That account is always the same for each computer.
But the same from where? From AD? from Microsoft?
I do the same - the local account is created during setup, but my GPOs neuter it after I join the domain. All other users are are domain users.
As for home users - I don't support any other than myself and my wife.. so meh.
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Was a guide really needed for this? Who didn't know how to do this?
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@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@Donahue said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@travisdh1 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@gjacobse said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
The need for an 'online account' is ridiculous.. stupid MS.
There is not a need. but a strong ass push.
For typical home users - it's likely just better for them to use an MS account. In the business world - if we choose domain, all that other shit should go the hell away!
My biggest peeve with it is them asking for the password when setting up an account for someone else.
For domain computers, I always setup the first account for my own use as the admin. End users never use local account. That account is always the same for each computer.
But the same from where? From AD? from Microsoft?
I do the same - the local account is created during setup, but my GPOs neuter it after I join the domain. All other users are are domain users.
As for home users - I don't support any other than myself and my wife.. so meh.
I keep that local admin account. It has come in handy many times. It doesn't come from anywhere, it gets created each time on a new workstation.
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@DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
Was a guide really needed for this? Who didn't know how to do this?
Yes. It was discussed in a thread just the other day. It has been mentioned more than once and people disagree with the facts. So I posted them.
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So does anyone know how to connect on online account to your windows 10 installation?
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@IRJ said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
So does anyone know how to connect on online account to your windows 10 installation?
Yes. You will need the blood of a Lithuanian virgin, a grashopper's eyelash, and 10 grams of unobtanium. I'm assuming your Faustian deal with MS is already signed and valid, yes?
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@RojoLoco said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@IRJ said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
So does anyone know how to connect on online account to your windows 10 installation?
Yes. You will need the blood of a Lithuanian virgin, a grashopper's eyelash, and 10 grams of unobtanium. I'm assuming your Faustian deal with MS is already signed and valid, yes?
A man creating a Microsoft account and agreeing to terms in conditions during a Windows 10 install.
2018 Partially Colorized
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Using this guide right now
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Easier is "Set up for an Organization" and choose a username. Ours would be Laptop Admin with the space and no password to avoid the questions.
Once logged on, CTRL+ALT+DEL and Change Password to set the new one. Note that the existing would be a blank.
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@PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
Easier is "Set up for an Organization" and choose a username. Ours would be Laptop Admin with the space and no password to avoid the questions.
Once logged on, CTRL+ALT+DEL and Change Password to set the new one. Note that the existing would be a blank.
Interesting - a blank password has it avoid the recovery questions... huh.
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@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
Easier is "Set up for an Organization" and choose a username. Ours would be Laptop Admin with the space and no password to avoid the questions.
Once logged on, CTRL+ALT+DEL and Change Password to set the new one. Note that the existing would be a blank.
Interesting - a blank password has it avoid the recovery questions... huh.
Yes.
But I believe when I tested it, you still had to fill out recovery once you added a password. Or maybe that was even adding a pssword non admin account. I lost track. -
@JaredBusch Once into the desktop the process I indicated does not kick the recovery question prompt. I don't even know where they are in Win10 since all of our systems are AD integrated or have an Admin and a Standard account for the user's day to day that we manage.
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@JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
Easier is "Set up for an Organization" and choose a username. Ours would be Laptop Admin with the space and no password to avoid the questions.
Once logged on, CTRL+ALT+DEL and Change Password to set the new one. Note that the existing would be a blank.
Interesting - a blank password has it avoid the recovery questions... huh.
Yes.
But I believe when I tested it, you still had to fill out recovery once you added a password. Or maybe that was even adding a pssword non admin account. I lost track.well - yeah - you would expect to do the recover IF you give it a password.
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I use this guide to walk customers through setting up a machine nearly weekly.
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@scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
I use this guide to walk customers through setting up a machine nearly weekly.
I'm curious why you push them away from using a MS account?
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@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
I use this guide to walk customers through setting up a machine nearly weekly.
I'm curious why you push them away from using a MS account?
If the machine is pulled in to Azure AD by signing in with a MS AAD account, one cannot use that account to RDP into that endpoint. Something be broken there.
Better to set up a local account and bind the Azure AD/MS Account in the OS settings.
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@PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
I use this guide to walk customers through setting up a machine nearly weekly.
I'm curious why you push them away from using a MS account?
If the machine is pulled in to Azure AD by signing in with a MS AAD account, one cannot use that account to RDP into that endpoint. Something be broken there.
Better to set up a local account and bind the Azure AD/MS Account in the OS settings.
Interesting - didn't know that.
So what - you setup a local account, then under that local account, join it to an MS AAD, then login as the MS AAD account? Then you can RDP into the computer using the MS AAD account?
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@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
@scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
I use this guide to walk customers through setting up a machine nearly weekly.
I'm curious why you push them away from using a MS account?
If the machine is pulled in to Azure AD by signing in with a MS AAD account, one cannot use that account to RDP into that endpoint. Something be broken there.
Better to set up a local account and bind the Azure AD/MS Account in the OS settings.
Interesting - didn't know that.
So what - you setup a local account, then under that local account, join it to an MS AAD, then login as the MS AAD account? Then you can RDP into the computer using the MS AAD account?
Has to be the local account or domain user account to log on via RDP. MyName@AzureADDomain.Com does not work.
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How about turning all your dumb shit off by default MS? Then people can turn it on if they want. No need to have all this bullshit on installation.
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@IRJ said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:
How about turning all your dumb shit off by default MS? Then people can turn it on if they want. No need to have all this bullshit on installation.
I'll be the outsider here - for normal people, yes they should. For business use - you're right, all that shit should be off.. a bunch of it is... if you pay for the Enterprise version. So you get mega penalized by having to pay a ton more.
