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    • G I JonesG
      G I Jones @DustinB3403
      last edited by G I Jones

      @DustinB3403 said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

      @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

      RAID 5

      Why raid 5 today with all of the evidence that it's dead tech. Are these SSDs that makeup the array?

      My boss configured the RAID, and yes they are SSD’s.

      Would you recommend 10?

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      • G I JonesG
        G I Jones @DustinB3403
        last edited by G I Jones

        @DustinB3403 said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

        @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

        RAID 5

        Why raid 5 today with all of the evidence that it's dead tech. Are these SSDs that makeup the array?

        Additionally, I just got them to buy me some Thumb Drives (verbatim 32 GB). Thinking of running RAID 1 on those for ESXi (is it possible to do that with one partitioned USB or maybe that’s a bad idea because if the thing fails it all failed right?). At least until we can get an internal M.2 or SD setup going.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @G I Jones
          last edited by

          @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

          @DustinB3403 said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

          @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

          RAID 5

          Why raid 5 today with all of the evidence that it's dead tech. Are these SSDs that makeup the array?

          My boss configured the RAID, and yes they are SSD’s.

          Would you recommend 10?

          RAID 5 on SSD should be fine. It's the old-fashioned spinners that the major issues exist with.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @travisdh1
            last edited by

            @travisdh1 said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

            @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

            @DustinB3403 said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

            @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

            RAID 5

            Why raid 5 today with all of the evidence that it's dead tech. Are these SSDs that makeup the array?

            My boss configured the RAID, and yes they are SSD’s.

            Would you recommend 10?

            RAID 5 on SSD should be fine. It's the old-fashioned spinners that the major issues exist with.

            Yeah with an SSD array you're fine, but with spinning rust I'd consider RAID 6 or RAID10

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @G I Jones
              last edited by

              @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

              but when I install VMWare Tools to load the driver so I can see the Partitions, it only lets me select the AMD64 which is wrong.

              How could AMD64 be wrong? What other possibility is there? VMware only runs on AMD64.

              What are you running? You don't have a Power or Itanium system, do you?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @G I Jones
                last edited by

                @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                @DustinB3403 said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                RAID 5

                Why raid 5 today with all of the evidence that it's dead tech. Are these SSDs that makeup the array?

                My boss configured the RAID, and yes they are SSD’s.

                Would you recommend 10?

                Not likely, RAID 5 is perfectly fine there. RAID 10 is likely overkill. But RAID 5 definitely would push you to a powerful RAID card.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @G I Jones
                  last edited by

                  @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                  CPU 2 Socket 2 core and 4 socket 1 core really just mixing it up at this point hoping anything will be different.

                  That doesn't change anything. It's a licensing thing, not a tech thing.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    For s&h why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                      For s&h why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

                      S&H, not Ss&Gs?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                        why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

                        If you are going to try something, try KVM. Faster, easier, less likely to have weird things happen. Hyper-V is good, but if you are starting over, might as well make life as easy as possible.

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                        • G I JonesG
                          G I Jones @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by G I Jones

                          @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                          @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                          but when I install VMWare Tools to load the driver so I can see the Partitions, it only lets me select the AMD64 which is wrong.

                          How could AMD64 be wrong? What other possibility is there? VMware only runs on AMD64.

                          What are you running? You don't have a Power or Itanium system, do you?

                          I was assuming the driver should have been the Intel driver (as that’s an option too) because I have an Intel Xeon, but you’re saying it’s for use by ESXi, for ESXi and not for use by ESXi for the chipset installed. I guess I misunderstood that.

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                          • G I JonesG
                            G I Jones @G I Jones
                            last edited by

                            @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                            @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                            @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                            but when I install VMWare Tools to load the driver so I can see the Partitions, it only lets me select the AMD64 which is wrong.

                            How could AMD64 be wrong? What other possibility is there? VMware only runs on AMD64.

                            What are you running? You don't have a Power or Itanium system, do you?

                            I was assuming the driver should have been the Intel driver (as that’s an option too) because I have an Intel Xeon, but you’re saying it’s for use by ESXi, for ESXi and not for use by ESXi for the chipset installed. I guess I misunderstood that.

                            Never mind I googled i386 and realized it’s pretty much the 32 bit version.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                              @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                              For s&h why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

                              S&H, not Ss&Gs?

                              I got that 1!

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                              • G I JonesG
                                G I Jones @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                For s&h why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

                                S&H, not Ss&Gs?

                                I don’t know what these are.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @G I Jones
                                  last edited by

                                  @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                  @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                  For s&h why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

                                  S&H, not Ss&Gs?

                                  I don’t know what these are.

                                  I have no idea what S&H is. But Ss&Gs are "shits and giggles".

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                    @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                    but when I install VMWare Tools to load the driver so I can see the Partitions, it only lets me select the AMD64 which is wrong.

                                    How could AMD64 be wrong? What other possibility is there? VMware only runs on AMD64.

                                    What are you running? You don't have a Power or Itanium system, do you?

                                    What Scott means is that today, Intel and AMD both make their 64 bit chips based on the AMD64 spec. Intel's original 64 bit spec failed compared to AMD's spec, so AMDs won, just like Intel's won in the past and everyone cloned/copied that.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                      @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                      For s&h why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

                                      S&H, not Ss&Gs?

                                      yeah, that was supposed to be S&G...

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @G I Jones
                                        last edited by

                                        @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                        @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                        @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                        but when I install VMWare Tools to load the driver so I can see the Partitions, it only lets me select the AMD64 which is wrong.

                                        How could AMD64 be wrong? What other possibility is there? VMware only runs on AMD64.

                                        What are you running? You don't have a Power or Itanium system, do you?

                                        I was assuming the driver should have been the Intel driver (as that’s an option too) because I have an Intel Xeon, but you’re saying it’s for use by ESXi, for ESXi and not for use by ESXi for the chipset installed. I guess I misunderstood that.

                                        Never mind I googled i386 and realized it’s pretty much the 32 bit version.

                                        IA32 / i386 = Intel 32bit
                                        IA64 = Itaniam (Intel's dead 64bit idea)
                                        AMD64 = Modern 64bit that replaced i386

                                        AMD64 is the only platform supported by Windows or VMware or Hyper-V. It's the only 64bit PC platform. Everything you think of as a modern computer is AMD64. And it is why we say "Genuine AMD" because Intel only makes clones (reversed from the 32bit era when AMD made Intel clones.) Absolutely no one has used "Intel architecture" in years, everything is AMD based today.

                                        The only major alternative to AMD today is ARM, that's what is used in phones and Raspberry Pi. But only Linux and BSD run on that platform currently.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                          @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                          For s&h why not try Hyper-V as the hypervisor, then setup a Windows VM

                                          S&H, not Ss&Gs?

                                          yeah, that was supposed to be S&G...

                                          See, I knew that's what you meant!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                            @G-I-Jones said in ESXi 6.7 Troubleshooting:

                                            but when I install VMWare Tools to load the driver so I can see the Partitions, it only lets me select the AMD64 which is wrong.

                                            How could AMD64 be wrong? What other possibility is there? VMware only runs on AMD64.

                                            What are you running? You don't have a Power or Itanium system, do you?

                                            What Scott means is that today, Intel and AMD both make their 64 bit chips based on the AMD64 spec. Intel's original 64 bit spec failed compared to AMD's spec, so AMDs won, just like Intel's won in the past and everyone cloned/copied that.

                                            Yup. Although worth noting that Intel's Itanium EPIC architecture (aka IA64) did last for a good decade or so and was an amazing design. But the cost was so high that no one could reasonably consider it and AMD's 64bit platform that was backward compatible with i386 proved unbeatable. Intel thought that everyone was going to drop the PC platform and move to something new with all new operating systems and no Windows and no software being compatible. It was an insane belief. AMD bet that people would want to just upgrade from what they had, at a lower cost and proved to be massively correct.

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