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    How bad are celerons these days?

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    • IRJI
      IRJ
      last edited by IRJ

      I am looking at upcoming lightning deals and I see this HP PC. Right now its at $220, but I am wondering if it will drop below $180 when it becomes a lightning deal in 13 hours.

      www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NG0TGQK/ref=gb1h_img_c-6_8122_2321f6fa?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=center-6&pf_rd_r=0KDR41N8J7KJNT2CT1P4&pf_rd_i=10488918011&pf_rd_p=1996918122#customerReviews

      Do you think this desktop is a good deal for under $200? I know its not going to be super fast or anything, but the price seems good for a lower end system.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        It's probably fine. Celerons are always the low end of whatever Intel is making. They are pretty much always the same thing.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          A lot of things in the Chromebook range come with Celerons these days.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller
            last edited by

            It will surf the web and watch youtube / netflix no problem.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ
              last edited by

              I could also add a HD to this, install an OS and be good to go.

              www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4000HUX-i3-4130-Computer/dp/B00F6EK9J2/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418064207&sr=1-3&keywords=core+i3#customerReviews

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              • IRJI
                IRJ
                last edited by

                Celeron doesnt do so well compared to the i3. The price difference isn't all that much.

                Celeron

                i3

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said:

                  Celeron doesnt do so well compared to the i3. The price difference isn't all that much.

                  Celeron

                  i3

                  I'd personally take an i3 over a Celeron any day. Like you said, the price difference generally isn't huge.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller
                    last edited by

                    I'd put in a cheap SSD before I went to an i3 but just my $0.02

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      I'd put in a cheap SSD before I went to an i3 but just my $0.02

                      Agreed, the processor is the least important component these days.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        I'd put in a cheap SSD before I went to an i3 but just my $0.02

                        Agreed, the processor is the least important component these days.

                        That seems like a fairly extreme statement.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                          last edited by

                          @thanksaj said:

                          That seems like a fairly extreme statement.

                          Why? What component do you feel is more important? Memory and storage drastically impact performance more than CPU does. Almost nothing that normal users do is CPU bound.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by MattSpeller

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Almost nothing that normal users do is CPU bound.

                            Moore's law is responsible.
                            Spinning rust has not been able to keep up with CPU's for years now, it's just in the last 12mths that SSD are now consumer commodity cheap and very easy to recommend.
                            $0.50/gb and dropping in CDN

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              And the things that end users do are rarely computationally complex. They tend to do things that are graphically complex or that wait on some combination of disk and network IO. Memory comes into play because people like to have lots of stuff running at once. But none of that makes the CPU the bottleneck. There is a reason that I am able to run decently well on a seven year old AMD Phenom II processor with only three cores!

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ
                                last edited by

                                This PC is for me. Its sort of going to be a living room type computer that will only get internet use. It will also be used as a media sharing center.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  @IRJ said:

                                  This PC is for me. Its sort of going to be a living room type computer that will only get internet use. It will also be used as a media sharing center.

                                  Yeah it's 100% up to that. $200 is a good deal for it, I don't mean to detract from that.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    At that price, pretty hard to go wrong.

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                                    • nadnerBN
                                      nadnerB
                                      last edited by

                                      I personally avoid Celerons like the plague. Mainly due to the fact that historically, they have been a cheap pile of crap that bottlenecked the system. Kind of like a cork in a bottle.
                                      Yes, as @scottalanmiller stated, that's not so much of an issue today but I still can't bring myself to consider them because of how bad they used to be.

                                      To me, they still seem like 3-4 year old tech picked up at a $2 shop, repackaged & sold as new.

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