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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Mom & Dad homes or dual guardian homes, then it has the potential to be easier, but not necessarily. There are FAR TOO MANY variables at play, and the "Scott's World" ideology of "everyone should be able to be home and school their kids perfectly" just isn't what happens in practice. What "should be" isn't at all and is rarely what "is".

      So what I said was many, not all. And the whole school concept disregards all those people who can't work the same schedule as school. Work overnights? Screwed... now you work AND have to deal with your kids at school.

      School isn't some silver bullet. The government taking over the care and education of kids isn't a silver bullet. Governments are often exerting this control, people have given in to it because it feels nice to not have as much responsibility or they feel trapped, and society has conformed because it had to. Skip school in this manner, and society will adapt to that new normal. Make school be centralized but online, we'll adapt. Make school be at night, we'll adapt. Different people get benefits or screwed in different scenarios. You are using "people have already adapted" as if school changing wouldn't need to result in jobs changing. But it changed in the twentieth century, and the system is garbage, so why not make people adjust again, but to something actually good?

      solid point - at least I currently think so - how long has the modern school setup been in place? i.e. k-12 go to school m-f 7'ish to 3:30ish?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

        solid point - at least I currently think so - how long has the modern school setup been in place? i.e. k-12 go to school m-f 7'ish to 3:30ish?

        I think since around the 1930s. It's more recent than you'd think. And it's not universal and still changing. The ages, times, length, purpose, keeps evolving. School today is nothing like when I was a kid, for example.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

          solid point - at least I currently think so - how long has the modern school setup been in place? i.e. k-12 go to school m-f 7'ish to 3:30ish?

          I think since around the 1930s. It's more recent than you'd think. And it's not universal and still changing. The ages, times, length, purpose, keeps evolving. School today is nothing like when I was a kid, for example.

          not really more recent that I would think. I figured it was likely between WWI and WWII, we definitely see the normalcy of it by the 40's, though I can't say I know of any references to the earlier than that. though unrelated, single room schools existed long after this timeframe.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            School today is nothing like when I was a kid, for example.

            oh, how is it different for you?

            HS for me is pretty much the same. Late'ish Aug - Late'ish May bus pickup between 6 and 7:30, drop off sometime between 3:30 and 5:30.

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            • black3dynamiteB
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              Here's what the Granite School District in Utah is doing.
              https://www.graniteschools.org/bulletin/steps-for-a-safe-school-year/

              Steps for a Safe School Year
              https://cdn-59bd6cf5f911c923e82ee0ee.closte.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Steps-for-Safe-School.pdf
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              School Reopening Requirements Template
              https://cdn-59bd6cf5f911c923e82ee0ee.closte.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/School-Reopening-Requirements-Template-.pdf

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                  According to the School Reopening Requirements Template document, it depends on the school and parents.
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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                    The thing is, of your kids are sick, it's most likely not Covid19.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                      @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                      The thing is, of your kids are sick, it's most likely not Covid19.

                      I personally don't care if it's Covid-19, Flu or the common cold, if you're sick, keep it to yourself/family. The rampant spread of illness is absolutely insane and Covid-19 simply put a spotlight on the issue.

                      Wash your hands ffs.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                        @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                        The thing is, of your kids are sick, it's most likely not Covid19.

                        Sure, but probably good that sick kids aren't put into schools anyway. Schools, ignoring COVID19, have always been petri dishes and spread disease in communities like crazy (one of the many reasons I think that they are terrible ideas and always have) and since schools are paid based on attendance, they have long had policies to require kids stay in school when sick. Making all the other kids sick. If we made all the kids stay home when sick, regardless of what it is, it could have a huge positive impact on the school system in general.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Sure, but probably good that sick kids aren't put into schools anyway.

                          Yeah for sure. But this is all in regards to COVID-19, and since.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                            @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Sure, but probably good that sick kids aren't put into schools anyway.

                            Yeah for sure. But this is all in regards to COVID-19, and since.

                            In theory, but healthy kids (and teachers) are less likely to get COVID as well. It's a win/win.

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                            • FredtxF
                              Fredtx @Obsolesce
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                              @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                              The thing is, of your kids are sick, it's most likely not Covid19.

                              And even if it is Covid-19, most kids won't even notice they have it. They could have a small cough or 1 day of low grade fever. Or no symptoms at all.

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                              • GreyG
                                Grey @Fredtx
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                                @Fredtx said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                                The thing is, of your kids are sick, it's most likely not Covid19.

                                And even if it is Covid-19, most kids won't even notice they have it. They could have a small cough or 1 day of low grade fever. Or no symptoms at all.

                                https://kfor.com/news/oklahoma-records-first-child-death-from-covid-19/

                                Death is a non-symptom, for sure.

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                                • FredtxF
                                  Fredtx @Grey
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                                  @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @Fredtx said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                                  The thing is, of your kids are sick, it's most likely not Covid19.

                                  And even if it is Covid-19, most kids won't even notice they have it. They could have a small cough or 1 day of low grade fever. Or no symptoms at all.

                                  https://kfor.com/news/oklahoma-records-first-child-death-from-covid-19/

                                  Death is a non-symptom, for sure.

                                  Very important fact written on this article.

                                  "A 13-year-old girl with an autoimmune disease living with her family on post at Ft. Still in Lawton is the first child to have died from COVID-19 in Oklahoma. "

                                  One can question if she would have still passed if she contracted another sickness due to the underlining disease she already had. I know my friend was infected, and his 9 year old daughter had low grade fever for 1 day, and that was it. His other 2 kids who are bubble gum with his daughter didn't have anything, which means they were either asymptomatic or didn't even get infected.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Grey
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                                    @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @Fredtx said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @black3dynamite sick students must stay home.... how do they determine who is sick? Testing is not free, at least not here. Who is determining if they are sick?

                                    The thing is, of your kids are sick, it's most likely not Covid19.

                                    And even if it is Covid-19, most kids won't even notice they have it. They could have a small cough or 1 day of low grade fever. Or no symptoms at all.

                                    https://kfor.com/news/oklahoma-records-first-child-death-from-covid-19/

                                    Death is a non-symptom, for sure.

                                    You seem super focused on the individual, and not the masses. There's nothing wrong with that. But it's definitely important to look at the big picture too.

                                    If you solely focus on a single death, there would never be an uprising against oppression, etc.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Grey
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                                      @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      Death is a non-symptom, for sure.

                                      All illnesses have the random person with non-normal reactions to the illness, that yes, can include death.

                                      We don't shut down everything because an otherwise healthy person dies from the flu.

                                      We don't ban jogging because a healthy person dies while jogging.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b1mfqlcr9ylzjf/Bridgewater-Accused-Two-Ex-Employees-of-Stealing-Trade-Secrets-Here-s-What-Happened-Next

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                                        • mlnewsM
                                          mlnews
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                                          New South Wales erosion: Huge swells leave homes at risk of collapse

                                          Huge waves have pummelled the Australian state of New South Wales, eroding some coastal areas and putting homes at risk of collapse.
                                          In beach suburbs to the north of Sydney, residents lost decks and fences as the surf lapped at the edge of properties. Authorities say they have recorded waves as high as 11m (36ft) this week off the city's coastline. The wild surf has been caused by a strong low pressure system. On Friday, the Bureau of Meteorology (Bom) re-issued a "hazardous" surf warning for the state's entire 2,100km (1,300-mile) coastline.

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                                          • GreyG
                                            Grey @mlnews
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                                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            New South Wales erosion: Huge swells leave homes at risk of collapse

                                            Huge waves have pummelled the Australian state of New South Wales, eroding some coastal areas and putting homes at risk of collapse.
                                            In beach suburbs to the north of Sydney, residents lost decks and fences as the surf lapped at the edge of properties. Authorities say they have recorded waves as high as 11m (36ft) this week off the city's coastline. The wild surf has been caused by a strong low pressure system. On Friday, the Bureau of Meteorology (Bom) re-issued a "hazardous" surf warning for the state's entire 2,100km (1,300-mile) coastline.

                                            Sounds like some builders ignored their erosions studies, or didn't do them.

                                            https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/bdea/c9b712369815bab02152f8cc79f2531ffa1d.pdf

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