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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @coliver
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      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

      I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

      Swiss cheese 😄

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

        I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

        Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

          I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

          Swiss cheese 😄

          Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously 😉

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

            I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

            Swiss cheese 😄

            Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously 😉

            I'm from NJ. No one seems to know what a Pork Roll is outside of the tri-state area. Used to it

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

              I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

              Swiss cheese 😄

              Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously 😉

              I'm from NJ. No one seems to know what a Pork Roll is outside of the tri-state area. Used to it

              Even in the tri-state, only NJ calls it a pork roll. The rest of the world doesn't care and just thinks of it as generic-SPAM.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                Swiss cheese 😄

                Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously 😉

                I'm from NJ. No one seems to know what a Pork Roll is outside of the tri-state area. Used to it

                Even in the tri-state, only NJ calls it a pork roll. The rest of the world doesn't care and just thinks of it as generic-SPAM.

                Blasphemy. There is nothing generic about it.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                  Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                  Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                    Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                    Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

                    Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                      Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                      Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

                      Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.

                      Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @coliver
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                        Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                        Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

                        Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.

                        Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.

                        I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                          Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                          Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

                          Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.

                          Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.

                          I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.

                          Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Travel to and from the US has traditionally been very easy. However that is one of the things that Trump wants to change.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @coliver
                              last edited by wirestyle22

                              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                              Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                              Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

                              Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.

                              Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.

                              I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.

                              Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.

                              Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.

                              EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                For those considering rapid relocation.... Panama and Albania offer Americans (currently, don't be surprised if this goes away) six months and one year of residency and right to work, no questions asked. Canada and the UK offer six months right to live. France, Spain and Kosovo have some of the friendliest paths to citizenship.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said

                                  +1 to no one actually leaving

                                  I'm keeping a list of my FB friends who say they are moving.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                                    Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                                    Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

                                    Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.

                                    Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.

                                    I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.

                                    Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.

                                    Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.

                                    EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.

                                    My wife's family is 6 hours away. We see them once every month or so. My parent's, and an uncle, live 8 miles from where we live now. We see them several times a week.

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                                    • alex.olynykA
                                      alex.olynyk @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 I love pork roll! Moved to Florida from Jersey.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        For those considering rapid relocation.... Panama and Albania offer Americans (currently, don't be surprised if this goes away) six months and one year of residency and right to work, no questions asked. Canada and the UK offer six months right to live. France, Spain and Kosovo have some of the friendliest paths to citizenship.

                                        What's the job market like it those areas? Specifically IT related jobs.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @coliver
                                          last edited by wirestyle22

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.

                                          Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.

                                          Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.

                                          Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.

                                          Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.

                                          I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.

                                          Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.

                                          Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.

                                          EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.

                                          My wife's family is 6 hours away. We see them once every month or so. My parent's, and an uncle, live 8 miles from where we live now. We see them several times a week.

                                          I guess this question would be more for your wife then as I'm in her position. I'm all for family but I don't think that people in our situation (professionally oriented, responsible, extremely busy people) can reasonably accommodate their "needs". Her Dad's retired. Like dude, drive here.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @alex.olynyk
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                                            @alex.olynyk said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @wirestyle22 I love pork roll! Moved to Florida from Jersey.

                                            I'm glad someone understands. @scottalanmiller must have been away for too long.

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