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    • brianlittlejohnB
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      Gravitational Waves Theorized by Einstein's General Theory of Relativity detected for first time

      http://www.space.com/31900-gravitational-waves-discovery-ligo.html

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @brianlittlejohn
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        @brianlittlejohn said:

        Gravitational Waves Theorized by Einstein's General Theory of Relativity detected for first time

        http://www.space.com/31900-gravitational-waves-discovery-ligo.html

        Read that earlier today. THis is really cool.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35586834

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35586834

            Will the American Healthcare system finally wake up and admit that treating cancer by building up the immune system instead of knocking it down is the best treatment? I doubt it, but always hope.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35586834

              Will the American Healthcare system finally wake up and admit that treating cancer by building up the immune system instead of knocking it down is the best treatment? I doubt it, but always hope.

              No profit in cures.

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              • RojoLocoR
                RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller yep, we haven't "cured" anything since polio, and with anti-vaxxers running rampant among us, I feel we are on the cusp of a big polio comeback. I mean, we have had outbreaks of smallpox/measles, even though we have "eradicated" those diseases.... polio is overdue, don'tcha think?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  although to be fair, the anti-vaxxers got their start because of the overly pro-vaxxers making smallpox viable again. There is a balance. One camp is a response to the other.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco
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                    Anti-vaxxers are simply the bottom rung of the intelligence ladder... they are the individuals who are most susceptible to internet misinformation (looking at you, Vana Hari and Jenny McCarthy) and the whole "feelgood" marketing BS . No matter what hippies tell you, tea tree oil is not a cure for anything, especially disease we have vaccines for. Vaccines don't cause autism (a recent study, sponsored by anti-vaxxers, proved there is no link between vaccines and autism. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot).

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @RojoLoco
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                      @RojoLoco said:

                      @scottalanmiller yep, we haven't "cured" anything since polio, and with anti-vaxxers running rampant among us, I feel we are on the cusp of a big polio comeback. I mean, we have had outbreaks of smallpox/measles, even though we have "eradicated" those diseases.... polio is overdue, don'tcha think?

                      The extended family who doesn't do vaccinations had a bout of something, I'm thinking it was polio, but not sure. They're actually generally more healthy, but could pass from something that wouldn't bother the rest of us. I don't think most people in the US are given any insight besides what big pharma pushes. Nobody really knows all the risk factors involved.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said:

                        @RojoLoco said:

                        @scottalanmiller yep, we haven't "cured" anything since polio, and with anti-vaxxers running rampant among us, I feel we are on the cusp of a big polio comeback. I mean, we have had outbreaks of smallpox/measles, even though we have "eradicated" those diseases.... polio is overdue, don'tcha think?

                        The extended family who doesn't do vaccinations had a bout of something, I'm thinking it was polio, but not sure. They're actually generally more healthy, but could pass from something that wouldn't bother the rest of us. I don't think most people in the US are given any insight besides what big pharma pushes. Nobody really knows all the risk factors involved.

                        It's true, there are no honest studies in the US. All medical information is filtered. The degree of misinformation is crazy.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @travisdh1 said:

                          @RojoLoco said:

                          @scottalanmiller yep, we haven't "cured" anything since polio, and with anti-vaxxers running rampant among us, I feel we are on the cusp of a big polio comeback. I mean, we have had outbreaks of smallpox/measles, even though we have "eradicated" those diseases.... polio is overdue, don'tcha think?

                          The extended family who doesn't do vaccinations had a bout of something, I'm thinking it was polio, but not sure. They're actually generally more healthy, but could pass from something that wouldn't bother the rest of us. I don't think most people in the US are given any insight besides what big pharma pushes. Nobody really knows all the risk factors involved.

                          It's true, there are no honest studies in the US. All medical information is filtered. The degree of misinformation is crazy.

                          Well, considering the fact that they got DDT outlawed even tho the preponderance of evidence shows it's perfectly safe. They used a supposed study that they gave the excuse that it made bird eggs soft. Never mind that the study they used fed each group of birds in the study a different diet. I'll give you one guess which group of birds had such low calcium in the diet that they would have been unable to product good eggs. Time and time again they've pulled this sort of...... stuff.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @travisdh1 said:

                            @RojoLoco said:

                            @scottalanmiller yep, we haven't "cured" anything since polio, and with anti-vaxxers running rampant among us, I feel we are on the cusp of a big polio comeback. I mean, we have had outbreaks of smallpox/measles, even though we have "eradicated" those diseases.... polio is overdue, don'tcha think?

                            The extended family who doesn't do vaccinations had a bout of something, I'm thinking it was polio, but not sure. They're actually generally more healthy, but could pass from something that wouldn't bother the rest of us. I don't think most people in the US are given any insight besides what big pharma pushes. Nobody really knows all the risk factors involved.

                            It's true, there are no honest studies in the US. All medical information is filtered. The degree of misinformation is crazy.

                            Well, considering the fact that they got DDT outlawed even tho the preponderance of evidence shows it's perfectly safe. They used a supposed study that they gave the excuse that it made bird eggs soft. Never mind that the study they used fed each group of birds in the study a different diet. I'll give you one guess which group of birds had such low calcium in the diet that they would have been unable to product good eggs. Time and time again they've pulled this sort of...... stuff.

                            Didn't the guy who created DDT eat like a spoonful a day to prove it was safe?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks said:

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              @RojoLoco said:

                              @scottalanmiller yep, we haven't "cured" anything since polio, and with anti-vaxxers running rampant among us, I feel we are on the cusp of a big polio comeback. I mean, we have had outbreaks of smallpox/measles, even though we have "eradicated" those diseases.... polio is overdue, don'tcha think?

                              The extended family who doesn't do vaccinations had a bout of something, I'm thinking it was polio, but not sure. They're actually generally more healthy, but could pass from something that wouldn't bother the rest of us. I don't think most people in the US are given any insight besides what big pharma pushes. Nobody really knows all the risk factors involved.

                              It's true, there are no honest studies in the US. All medical information is filtered. The degree of misinformation is crazy.

                              Well, considering the fact that they got DDT outlawed even tho the preponderance of evidence shows it's perfectly safe. They used a supposed study that they gave the excuse that it made bird eggs soft. Never mind that the study they used fed each group of birds in the study a different diet. I'll give you one guess which group of birds had such low calcium in the diet that they would have been unable to product good eggs. Time and time again they've pulled this sort of...... stuff.

                              Didn't the guy who created DDT eat like a spoonful a day to prove it was safe?

                              Yep.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @RojoLoco
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                                @RojoLoco said:

                                Anti-vaxxers are simply the bottom rung of the intelligence ladder... they are the individuals who are most susceptible to internet misinformation (looking at you, Vana Hari and Jenny McCarthy) and the whole "feelgood" marketing BS . No matter what hippies tell you, tea tree oil is not a cure for anything, especially disease we have vaccines for. Vaccines don't cause autism (a recent study, sponsored by anti-vaxxers, proved there is no link between vaccines and autism. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot).

                                For me it's not so much about autism as it is what else they include with the vaccines. If you want to remain healthy, you have to avoid all the vaccines with preservatives in them. IE Don't complain to me about the rising cases of Alzheimer's Disease if you continue pushing the yearly flue vaccinations with mercury in them. At least other types of vaccinations have a proven track record of actually working, which the flue vaccines do not.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  And stats in the US have shown that getting the flu reduces your chance of death versus being in the general population! Take that modern medicine.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said:

                                    @RojoLoco said:

                                    Anti-vaxxers are simply the bottom rung of the intelligence ladder... they are the individuals who are most susceptible to internet misinformation (looking at you, Vana Hari and Jenny McCarthy) and the whole "feelgood" marketing BS . No matter what hippies tell you, tea tree oil is not a cure for anything, especially disease we have vaccines for. Vaccines don't cause autism (a recent study, sponsored by anti-vaxxers, proved there is no link between vaccines and autism. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot).

                                    For me it's not so much about autism as it is what else they include with the vaccines. If you want to remain healthy, you have to avoid all the vaccines with preservatives in them. IE Don't complain to me about the rising cases of Alzheimer's Disease if you continue pushing the yearly flue vaccinations with mercury in them. At least other types of vaccinations have a proven track record of actually working, which the flue vaccines do not.

                                    I don't get the flu shots because Cleveland Clinic has done a few studies that linked them to MS. There are a couple cases of MS on my mom's side and I don't want it. Our pediatrician asked me why and I told him that, he said that the flu shots are known to trigger hyperactive immune systems and cause issues like that.

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 I don't complain about rising cases of Alzheimer's... ever. I also don't endorse getting flu shots, nor do I get them myself. I had one once, never been sicker in my life. I don't get the flu, or even colds.... those are for the weak.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1
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                                        Blow me over with a feather, you're all logical!

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          We told our paediatrician that we wanted our kids to get their shots spread out instead of all at once. The doctors said "We never recommend that because American parents just don't care that much about their kids' health and won't bother to come in more than once, that's the only reason that the shots all at once are recommended. Spread out is definitely healthier." Apparently it is so rare that they don't even mention the better options. That's how bad the situation is.

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                                          • Minion QueenM
                                            Minion Queen Banned
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                                            I have lived where people do not get vaccinations. It is horrible to see people with Polio etc and dying of simple to cure things. Vaccinations for deadly things are an amazing part of modern medicine. However don't for the love of all that is good overload your immune system all at once. Jeeze that is just stupid. Parents that allow their kids to get 10 shots in a visit are idiots.

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