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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Pound hits new all time low at $1.31. London markets have been temporarily suspended via automatic break mechanisms designed to slow a market crash.

      The funny thing is, that by suspending the market they are often hurting themselves more than benefiting.

      Doing that just causes more panic as the uber-rich say "give me everything" when the market reopens.

      Then they just suspend it again. The real punishment comes from the market being unable to make money. Stopping losses also stops gains. The markets are huge money makers. Turning them off turns off much of the economy.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

        Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

          Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

          I might be able to afford a visit

          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/00/38/10/003810ad19e8eab7754106736ec03644.jpg

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            I'm glad to see that travel is going to be cheap for a while.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

              Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

              So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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                @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

                Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

                So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

                Over/Under is running about 20 bucks so you'd lose any gains in the fees

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                  @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

                  Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

                  So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

                  Small scale is never good nor is holding currency. FX Trading is done at insane scale and very rapidly (many times per day.) The idea of holding any currency or trading through cash exchange channels is a sure loss.

                  Holding currency means that you fight inflation and pay massive overheads on the exchange for things that move very little. FX traders work in sub-second trades with big leverage (like 10,000% loans) to get enough volume to make it work.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

                    Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

                    So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

                    Over/Under is running about 20 bucks so you'd lose any gains in the fees

                    Exactly. Basically $10,000 is the minimum buy for an FX speculation and the maximum hold is 48 hours. If you try to drop below $10 or hold longer than two days... you are screwed.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

                      Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

                      So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

                      Over/Under is running about 20 bucks so you'd lose any gains in the fees

                      Exactly. Basically $10,000 is the minimum buy for an FX speculation and the maximum hold is 48 hours. If you try to drop below $10 or hold longer than two days... you are screwed.

                      Or playing the long con 😉

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

                          $100k is not a casual anything.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I spent most of my 30s as the top FX trade technologist in the game (architecture) running the biggest FX trading organization in the world which had as a client... the US Fed, for example. So this is my bread and butter.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                              @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

                              $100k is not a casual anything.

                              FX isn't a casual game. FX is go high or go home trading. It's the biggest profits and the biggest risk. You can't play unless you are in it to win it.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                FX trading is also the most automated. To get any advantage on FX trading the only option is to hire developers (I can get them for you) and the architecture team (I have them to) and build a low latency trading platform that sits in London physically within about 1km of the main exchange. And you have to be willing to make trades that no human sees - if you take over 20ms to decide on the trade, you lose it. FX offers last well under a second. They are called ticks and you get an offer many times per second. It's literally trillions per day across the currency options. And that is spot pricing alone.

                                So just attempting to trade in it is a major undertaking. You expect to drop several million just to get into the game from a hardware perspective. without it, any "good deal" that you see is gone before it even shows up on your screen.

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

                                  $100k is not a casual anything.

                                  FX isn't a casual game. FX is go high or go home trading. It's the biggest profits and the biggest risk. You can't play unless you are in it to win it.

                                  I was joking.... I'd give myself a shotgun tonsillectomy if I ever actually considered any kind of "trading". I'd be far more likely to lick a public toilet seat than to get involved in any of that bullshit.

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                                  • momurdaM
                                    momurda
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                                    Trading is dumb; investing is the way to go. Holding positions for a couple years and only buying worthwhile companies.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @momurda
                                      last edited by

                                      @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      Trading is dumb; investing is the way to go. Holding positions for a couple years and only buying worthwhile companies.

                                      Traders are the ones that make the big money, but it takes work. My mom was a trader later in life and did great. Long term holds are what you do for retirement, trading is what you do to make money.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver
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                                        http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/attention-us-bound-tourists-social-media-accounts-subject-to-inspection/#p3

                                        Insteresting.

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/attention-us-bound-tourists-social-media-accounts-subject-to-inspection/#p3

                                          Insteresting.

                                          Yeah, just saw that here
                                          http://www.golem.de/news/homeland-security-frage-nach-facebook-konto-bei-einreise-in-die-usa-geplant-1606-121769.html

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            Wow - makes me want happy I have my account locked down against searches and makes me want to delete them from my mobile devices before I travel.

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