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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      I think I agree with Scott.. I wonder if you have a failing switch. Can you replace it.. or for starters.. move the meraki to a different port on that switch?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        I think I agree with Scott.. I wonder if you have a failing switch. Can you replace it.. or for starters.. move the meraki to a different port on that switch?

        Switch? The PBX is directly connected (ok it is going through a hyper-v virtual switch but it is the only on it) to the Meraki firewall which is our internet gateway.

        At the suggestion of NTG support I directly connected the PBX server to the internet (which is a bit of a chore here) and there was no packet loss and ping/response times were marginally better. I forgot to grab a screen shot of it though.

        That pretty much means it is the firewall correct?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Well before jumping to that (hopefully correct) solution, have you tested calls to ensure that packet loss is correlating to bad phone calls?

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            A Former User
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            Have you looked at wireshark any using port mirroring?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Well before jumping to that (hopefully correct) solution, have you tested calls to ensure that packet loss is correlating to bad phone calls?

              I wasn't able to test the calls outside of the network I didn't have enough time. It takes a good 15-30 minutes to swap out devices with our ISP and I only had an hour to test.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                I see 😞 That sucks, but it does suggest that the issues are all on the network.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver
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                  Should have gone hosted... I would still see these problems but at least people could bring their phones somewhere else to use them.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
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                    @coliver said:

                    Should have gone hosted... I would still see these problems but at least people could bring their phones somewhere else to use them.

                    Sorry that it has to be BUT.... great example use case for where hosted can protect you 🙂

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @coliver said:

                      Should have gone hosted... I would still see these problems but at least people could bring their phones somewhere else to use them.

                      Sorry that it has to be BUT.... great example use case for where hosted can protect you 🙂

                      I would have done it originally but I couldn't get the numbers from anywhere else and until ~3 days prior to the go live date it was going to be over a PRI.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        Considering my internet bandwidth (10/10) NTG just suggested that I go locally hosted for my PBX.

                        How many phones do you have @coliver, how often are they used for internal to internal calling? and what size pipe to the internet?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @coliver
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                          @coliver said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          I think I agree with Scott.. I wonder if you have a failing switch. Can you replace it.. or for starters.. move the meraki to a different port on that switch?

                          Switch? The PBX is directly connected (ok it is going through a hyper-v virtual switch but it is the only on it) to the Meraki firewall which is our internet gateway.

                          At the suggestion of NTG support I directly connected the PBX server to the internet (which is a bit of a chore here) and there was no packet loss and ping/response times were marginally better. I forgot to grab a screen shot of it though.

                          That pretty much means it is the firewall correct?

                          Oh yeah, well in that case, it's definitely sounding like the firewall - but I thought you swapped the firewall yesterday and it made no difference?

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Well before jumping to that (hopefully correct) solution, have you tested calls to ensure that packet loss is correlating to bad phone calls?

                            I've been testing calls for the last 20 minutes, just my phone to my cell phone. Watching a ping from the pbx to the SIP Trunk. When the sequence numbers skip I get a drop out in voice.

                            A small sample size, but there is a correlation.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver
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                              And one more thing, I connected my phone to a testing PBX we have in NC, this is connected over the VPN (so over the Meraki) calling in and out over this line also has the same issues.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                But you removed the Meraki, put in a Ubiquiti, and had the same issues? That's the part that is confusing me.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  But you removed the Meraki, put in a Ubiquiti, and had the same issues? That's the part that is confusing me.

                                  I can't think of anything else that it could be at this point in time. Everything (at least from what I am seeing) is pointing to the Meraki device as the culprit. Especially since I've factored out all the other networking devices in the chain, even my phone is directly connected to the Meraki.

                                  I'm going to try and get someone to help me configure the Ubiquiti device, I must have made a configuration error when I originally implemented it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Sounds like a plan. For it to be the Meraki is the one thing that would not be surprising.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver
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                                      It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        That's because you have RTP. Each direction is unrelated to the other. So the stream of your voice and the stream of their voice are just two unidirectional streams that don't know about each other. So something causing them to fail would not necessarily impact you and vice versa.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          That's because you have RTP. Each direction is unrelated to the other. So the stream of your voice and the stream of their voice are just two unidirectional streams that don't know about each other. So something causing them to fail would not necessarily impact you and vice versa.

                                          Yep, I found it interesting that RTP is only being affected one way regardless of packet loss.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @coliver
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                                            @coliver said:

                                            It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

                                            Interesting. This is a similar problem I'm having with my C@C hosted FPBX and G-Voice sample box, and I'm behind a SonicWall NSA 2400.
                                            I can hear the outside caller, but they get blips when they can't hear me.

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