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    OneDrive Conundrum With Windows 10

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      And these days, placeholders are so common and assumed, I would think that lacking them, especially on a tablet, would be really confusing.

      I don't think placeholder exist on XP, never have.

      On tablets, I mean.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        And these days, placeholders are so common and assumed, I would think that lacking them, especially on a tablet, would be really confusing.

        I don't think placeholder exist on XP, never have.

        On tablets, I mean.

        One could argue that there aren't that many Windows tablets, so it's not something the masses know about or would miss.

        And we've already discussed that Google Drive works the same way as OneDrive does now (on Win7 and Win10), so now I assuming you're unhappy with them as well?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          And these days, placeholders are so common and assumed, I would think that lacking them, especially on a tablet, would be really confusing.

          I don't think placeholder exist on XP, never have.

          On tablets, I mean.

          One could argue that there aren't that many Windows tablets, so it's not something the masses know about or would miss.

          And we've already discussed that Google Drive works the same way as OneDrive does now (on Win7 and Win10), so now I assuming you're unhappy with them as well?

          I don't use either, so only unhappy in meaning I don't bother with them.

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          • ?
            A Former User
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            One would expect OneDrive to have better intergration with windows than Google Drive does. I personally don't use google drive.

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @dafyre
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              @dafyre said:

              @Dashrender I don't understand why not just let the client connect to the cloud storage and download the files you want to edit, and then automagically upload them every time you save?

              Exactly...this is how the Windows 8.1 placeholder version worked more or less...but you had options to always sync (available offline) or online only...

              I guess the fix is not to update my Venue 8 Pro to 10 right away until a solution comes back. Why Microsoft brags about how you get this cloud storage on low storage devices and then makes it impossible to get is frustrating.

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                This is why MS has moved away from placeholders.

                But that explanation made placeholders sound awesome. That doesn't explain why they moved away. It just makes it sound like they hate their customers 🙂

                I'm almost thinking...you have unlimited storage (with Office 365) but you can't have it...Mmmmuuaaah

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410 @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  Micro tablet users lose, because it would simply be broken, and there's no telling if that might break other things.

                  We all lose I guess because it has to be 1:1, so we can't store EVERYTHING on the cloud...suddenly, my WD MyCloud NAS drives sound better... 🙂 Or PogoPlug... 🙂

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    I'm a big fan of OwnCloud and have a server setup. That software doesn't even have a decent sync client... I feel like there must be some limitation in the file system or... somewhere that is preventing this from working like a file viewer that will download/upload on demand instead of syncing the entire directory.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Please remember, there are two different types of sync we're discussing. Full file sync, and just structure (think FAT) syncing.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Please remember, there are two different types of sync we're discussing. Full file sync, and just structure (think FAT) syncing.

                        FAT?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          I did try this at home last night on Windows 10... damn if I couldn't find a way to find my Excel file that is on OneDrive through Windows Explorer or Excel open file options - OK yeah - this is a pretty big fail. I didn't realize it was this bad.

                          Now I want to try Google Drive and see how that behaves.

                          I'm thinking that the mobile version of the apps (mobile Word, mobile Excel) will work differently and probably be able to read directly from MS's servers of OneDrive.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            @garak0410, you mention that you have 10.3TB of data in OneDrive, do you have consumer OneDrive or an O365 account? if O365, do you have a consumer version of that, or do you have a Business acounnt of O365?

                            What I don't know is, if the consumer version of O365 uses OneDrive or ODfB?

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                            • C
                              Carnival Boy
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                              I took out an O365 business account 12 months ago, mainly as a secondary backup of my photos as I don't entirely trust Flickr. It was about $60. It's due for renewal in a couple of weeks and I've just realised I've never actually got round to using it! I'm not sure whether to renew or to switch to Google Drive which is $24 per 100GB so would probably work out about a similar price for me.

                              From my limited use of either product, I have to say I prefer Google.

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                              • garak0410G
                                garak0410 @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                I did try this at home last night on Windows 10... damn if I couldn't find a way to find my Excel file that is on OneDrive through Windows Explorer or Excel open file options - OK yeah - this is a pretty big fail. I didn't realize it was this bad.

                                Now I want to try Google Drive and see how that behaves.

                                I'm thinking that the mobile version of the apps (mobile Word, mobile Excel) will work differently and probably be able to read directly from MS's servers of OneDrive.

                                Yes...this is bad in Windows 10. You would think OneDrive access in Office 365/2013 would mean direct access to OneDrive...but now, it wants the locally synced folder to access any Office Document on OneDrive.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  I took out an O365 business account 12 months ago, mainly as a secondary backup of my photos as I don't entirely trust Flickr. It was about $60. It's due for renewal in a couple of weeks and I've just realised I've never actually got round to using it! I'm not sure whether to renew or to switch to Google Drive which is $24 per 100GB so would probably work out about a similar price for me.

                                  From my limited use of either product, I have to say I prefer Google.

                                  I am preferring Amazon Cloud Drive for home use to either of them these days. No need to sync to your desktop.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Carnival Boy
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    @Carnival-Boy said:

                                    I took out an O365 business account 12 months ago, mainly as a secondary backup of my photos as I don't entirely trust Flickr. It was about $60. It's due for renewal in a couple of weeks and I've just realised I've never actually got round to using it! I'm not sure whether to renew or to switch to Google Drive which is $24 per 100GB so would probably work out about a similar price for me.

                                    From my limited use of either product, I have to say I prefer Google.

                                    If all you need is raw storage
                                    OD.JPG

                                    I guess this is the same price as google... Move along 😛

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                                      I took out an O365 business account 12 months ago, mainly as a secondary backup of my photos as I don't entirely trust Flickr. It was about $60. It's due for renewal in a couple of weeks and I've just realised I've never actually got round to using it! I'm not sure whether to renew or to switch to Google Drive which is $24 per 100GB so would probably work out about a similar price for me.

                                      From my limited use of either product, I have to say I prefer Google.

                                      If all you need is raw storage
                                      OD.JPG

                                      I guess this is the same price as google... Move along 😛

                                      Those prices are really, really high compared to Amazon for anything approaching a TB.

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                                      • C
                                        Carnival Boy
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                                        My O365 account is around $60 for unlimited storage which is much cheaper than Amazon or Google. That's ODfB rather than OD.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre
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                                          The Amazon Cloud Drive that Scott mentioned is also $60 a year... I would seriously consider these services if I wasn't already paying about that for Crashplan.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                                            last edited by

                                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                                            My O365 account is around $60 for unlimited storage which is much cheaper than Amazon or Google. That's ODfB rather than OD.

                                            My Amazon is actually unlimited, not limited to 4TB or less as ODfB is limited to, and only $60. Maybe you got one of the magic ODfB accounts, but they can't be guaranteed. I have one and there are huge limits on it. I can't get one even close to 1TB.

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