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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      How is this business employed as an MSP with a question like "what should I do when we take over this client?"

      Um... I have an idea, download a crypto-virus to show the owner how bad they can be in a private lan!

      That's a great thing to do....

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

        This guy wants to install XP from a floppy drive.

        It must be national ID10T Week.

        OK you've overstated it. he's trying to install a driver for XP install, which only accepts the driver from a floppy.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
          last edited by DustinB3403

          @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

          @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

          This guy wants to install XP from a floppy drive.

          It must be national ID10T Week.

          OK you've overstated it. he's trying to install a driver for XP install, which only accepts the driver from a floppy.

          No, he said it right in the top 3 sentences, "well duh, win 7 X64 on 1GB RAM and an Atom N450 ya that's the problem right there. So I'm attempting to reinstall XP, there is no recovery partition,"

          He's trying to reinstall Windows XP using floppies.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            This guy wants to install XP from a floppy drive.

            It must be national ID10T Week.

            OK you've overstated it. he's trying to install a driver for XP install, which only accepts the driver from a floppy.

            No, he said it right in the top 3 sentences, "well duh, win 7 X64 on 1GB RAM and an Atom N450 ya that's the problem right there. So I'm attempting to reinstall XP, there is no recovery partition,"

            He's trying to reinstall Windows XP using floppies.

            OP is installing from DVD. Says right up top:

            using F6 SATA-AHCI drivers from Dell support & drivers page

            setup cannot see HDD without F6 drivers

            boot system with USB DVD and USB Floppy attached

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              That's how I read it.

              I don't know that XP was ever available on Floppy - I know Windows 95 was, but that might have been the last version. I don't recall ever seeing Windows 98 or later on Floppy.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                That's how I read it.

                I don't know that XP was ever available on Floppy - I know Windows 95 was, but that might have been the last version. I don't recall ever seeing Windows 98 or later on Floppy.

                Windows 98 had ~40 floppies for installation. I'm just old enough to remember that method.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                  @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                  That's how I read it.

                  I don't know that XP was ever available on Floppy - I know Windows 95 was, but that might have been the last version. I don't recall ever seeing Windows 98 or later on Floppy.

                  Windows 98 had ~40 floppies for installation. I'm just old enough to remember that method.

                  Awww - I recall the 25 or so Windows 95 floppies.. CD's were so awesome then!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                    That's how I read it.

                    I don't know that XP was ever available on Floppy - I know Windows 95 was, but that might have been the last version. I don't recall ever seeing Windows 98 or later on Floppy.

                    XP did not come on floppy. Pretty sure 2000 did not either.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @coliver said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      That's how I read it.

                      I don't know that XP was ever available on Floppy - I know Windows 95 was, but that might have been the last version. I don't recall ever seeing Windows 98 or later on Floppy.

                      Windows 98 had ~40 floppies for installation. I'm just old enough to remember that method.

                      Awww - I recall the 25 or so Windows 95 floppies.. CD's were so awesome then!

                      Right! I did the ME install from CD it was so much better... other then ME being a complete cluster.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        @coliver said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        That's how I read it.

                        I don't know that XP was ever available on Floppy - I know Windows 95 was, but that might have been the last version. I don't recall ever seeing Windows 98 or later on Floppy.

                        Windows 98 had ~40 floppies for installation. I'm just old enough to remember that method.

                        Awww - I recall the 25 or so Windows 95 floppies.. CD's were so awesome then!

                        Windows 3.11 came on six floppies, I think.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          @coliver said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          That's how I read it.

                          I don't know that XP was ever available on Floppy - I know Windows 95 was, but that might have been the last version. I don't recall ever seeing Windows 98 or later on Floppy.

                          Windows 98 had ~40 floppies for installation. I'm just old enough to remember that method.

                          Awww - I recall the 25 or so Windows 95 floppies.. CD's were so awesome then!

                          Windows 3.11 came on six floppies, I think.

                          Sounds right - DOS 6.x came on 2 or 3.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            Even for learning this sounds like a bad idea.

                            Build my own SAN...

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              Even for learning this sounds like a bad idea.

                              Build my own SAN...

                              But if he learns it the piece meal, get it for free way, he'll be qualified to work for a non profit!

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
                                last edited by

                                @RojoLoco Sadly, yes that is how he will probably take the experience....

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  I didn't read the whole thread, but building your own SAN can be a good learning experience... if you learn from it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Have to add in, since we collect these stories here, that @dafyre had a full environmental failure yesterday from using an IPOD that rested on an single IBM SAN. The SAN "just failed."

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      I didn't read the whole thread, but building your own SAN can be a good learning experience... if you learn from it.

                                      Wouldn't do this for a (primary) production system, but a failure or off-site backup? Why not

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @thwr
                                        last edited by

                                        @thwr said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        I didn't read the whole thread, but building your own SAN can be a good learning experience... if you learn from it.

                                        Wouldn't do this for a (primary) production system, but a failure or off-site backup? Why not

                                        Cost. It costs more than not having the SAN, and increases risk while decreasing performance. In a system where the SAN is not saving money through scale (the only reason to have one at all), there are no positives, only negatives. If the failover site was so large that a SAN was cheaper, then sure, it could make sense.

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @thwr said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          I didn't read the whole thread, but building your own SAN can be a good learning experience... if you learn from it.

                                          Wouldn't do this for a (primary) production system, but a failure or off-site backup? Why not

                                          Cost. It costs more than not having the SAN, and increases risk while decreasing performance. In a system where the SAN is not saving money through scale (the only reason to have one at all), there are no positives, only negatives. If the failover site was so large that a SAN was cheaper, then sure, it could make sense.

                                          Well, sure, not having a SAN is better in most cases.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            Even for learning this sounds like a bad idea.

                                            Build my own SAN...

                                            Doesn't this topic come up every week? Why are people still spouting the same misinformation they did 5 years ago?

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