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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @Romo
      last edited by

      @Romo said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

      @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

      Serious butt hurt here: https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1912628-emc-vnxe3100-troublesome-storage-pool-vmware-view-vdi

      Unfortunately, any further help is forbidden under the new storage rules. Now he's pretending that he asked for more help than he did. He wanted a vendor name, he got two, now he's hurt that he's an "idiot". Seriously?

      Don't really understand why people need sugar coated answers.

      Special snowflakes need sugar coated platitudes.

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      • J
        Jason Banned
        last edited by Jason

        So is spiceworks censoring now based on advertisers or something?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Romo
          last edited by

          @Romo said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

          @scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

          Serious butt hurt here: https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1912628-emc-vnxe3100-troublesome-storage-pool-vmware-view-vdi

          Unfortunately, any further help is forbidden under the new storage rules. Now he's pretending that he asked for more help than he did. He wanted a vendor name, he got two, now he's hurt that he's an "idiot". Seriously?

          Don't really understand why people need sugar coated answers.

          Lots of people need that, it's common... but it has no place in IT or business. It's like my roommate. She's a sweet girl and her dream is to make furniture that cost $500 to make and she wants to sell for $500,000. Of course, there is nothing special about it, anyone with $500K would just look at a picture of it and have someone custom make it for them for $2,000 and, if they really liked it, spend the other $498,000 starting a company to make it cheaper. If I told her that this sounded like a good business idea, she might invest her life savings and all of her time into this idea that obviously won't work. Sugar coating is dangerous in business, and IT is business. As IT Pros, it's our job to remove sugar coating and deal with reality.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Jason
            last edited by

            @Jason said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

            So is spiceworks censoring now based on advertisers or something?

            No, but some individual admins have gotten vendor-favourable rules into individual groups.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              I was not censored in that thread, in case it looked that way. David deleted one of many, many responses that I had. He was fully justified in doing so. I'm not being curtailed in any way. I did unsubscribe from the thread, though, as there was no point - especially after the OP had checked out and didn't even want an answer any longer.

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB
                last edited by nadnerB

                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1912628-emc-vnxe3100-troublesome-storage-pool-vmware-view-vdi

                ^ Thread has been toasted

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                  I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                    So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                    I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                    What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @dafyre
                      last edited by stacksofplates

                      @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                      So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                      I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                      What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                      We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                      You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                        I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                        What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                        We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                        You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                        So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                          So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                          I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                          What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                          We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                          You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                          So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                          You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                            So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                            I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                            What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                            Yeah. . . M5A97 LE R2.0 motherboards from Asus...

                            Which why the [moderated] are we purchasing outdated technologies when we don't have anything that can even use it. . . .

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @stacksofplates
                              last edited by

                              @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                              I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                              What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                              We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                              You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                              So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                              You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

                              [snarky]
                              So don't disable the USB Ports!
                              [/snarky]

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                                I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                                What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                                We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                                You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                                So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                                You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

                                [snarky]
                                So don't disable the USB Ports!
                                [/snarky]

                                Sometimes you are required to ha.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by

                                  @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                  @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                  So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                                  I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                                  What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                                  We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                                  You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                                  Luckily my older KVM is forward compatible with USB connections 🙂

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @stacksofplates
                                    last edited by

                                    @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                                    I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                                    What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                                    We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                                    You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                                    So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                                    You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

                                    [snarky]
                                    So don't disable the USB Ports!
                                    [/snarky]

                                    Sometimes you are required to ha.

                                    Yeah, Haven't you seen all the spy movies where the spies are trying to plug in USB sticks into servers/whatever in DCs? Ya gotta disable them ports, dem bad.. 😛

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                                      I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                                      What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                                      We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                                      You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                                      So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                                      You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

                                      [snarky]
                                      So don't disable the USB Ports!
                                      [/snarky]

                                      Sometimes you are required to ha.

                                      Yeah, Haven't you seen all the spy movies where the spies are trying to plug in USB sticks into servers/whatever in DCs? Ya gotta disable them ports, dem bad.. 😛

                                      We are required to have a media center for one of the networks. Anything going on or off that network has to go through the media center. Only a select group of people/PCs can movie media on or off, so USB is disabled in the other machines. We were able to leave two open for keyboard and mouse and remove the kernel module for USB storage, but strictly following SCAP it's supposed to be completely disabled.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                                        I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                                        What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                                        We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                                        You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                                        So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                                        You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

                                        [snarky]
                                        So don't disable the USB Ports!
                                        [/snarky]

                                        Sometimes you are required to ha.

                                        Yeah, Haven't you seen all the spy movies where the spies are trying to plug in USB sticks into servers/whatever in DCs? Ya gotta disable them ports, dem bad.. 😛

                                        We are required to have a media center for one of the networks. Anything going on or off that network has to go through the media center. Only a select group of people/PCs can movie media on or off, so USB is disabled in the other machines. We were able to leave two open for keyboard and mouse and remove the kernel module for USB storage, but strictly following SCAP it's supposed to be completely disabled.

                                        I was harassing Brant, not you. I understand there are law requirements.

                                        Frankly I'd love to disable most if not all USB ports to keep users from plugging random USB sticks they might find in the parking lot into our computers. Other than keyboard/mouse the staff has little to no reason to use USB sticks. The exception is me and booting to Clonezilla for image deployment. I don't bother with PXE booting.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                                          I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                                          What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                                          We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                                          You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                                          So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                                          You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

                                          [snarky]
                                          So don't disable the USB Ports!
                                          [/snarky]

                                          Sometimes you are required to ha.

                                          Yeah, Haven't you seen all the spy movies where the spies are trying to plug in USB sticks into servers/whatever in DCs? Ya gotta disable them ports, dem bad.. 😛

                                          If you've lost physical access to the system, you're data is already at an extremely high risk level of being compromised.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                            So yesterday we had a bunch of computer parts arrive with a dedicated port each ps2 keyboard and mouse...

                                            I tell the boss and he says "that's good"... um no its not we don't have ps2 keyboard and mice...

                                            What in the world did you order that came with PS/2 ports?

                                            We got brand new z440s this year and they have PS/2 ports.

                                            You can completely disable USB on them so you need another way for input. Plus they are rackable so I'm assuming it's also for backwards compatibility with older KVMs.

                                            So use your existing USB keyboards and mice with them, lol.

                                            You can, but if you disable the ports in the BIOS you can't.

                                            [snarky]
                                            So don't disable the USB Ports!
                                            [/snarky]

                                            Sometimes you are required to ha.

                                            Yeah, Haven't you seen all the spy movies where the spies are trying to plug in USB sticks into servers/whatever in DCs? Ya gotta disable them ports, dem bad.. 😛

                                            If you've lost physical access to the system, you're data is already at an extremely high risk level of being compromised.

                                            You do know that datacenters love to give tours of their facilities right? Sometimes they are on the ball, sometimes not. I did a tour a few years ago... it would have been easy for me to plug in a USB stick in one of the open cabinets we were shown.

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