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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Normal backup software does not have NAS limitations like Windows does. Windows Backup is extremely limited and basic and is doing something weird and lazily causes the issue requiring a block device.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        I've learned also that it perform block level backup, can I backup my files in daily basis incrementally to a NAS???

        Which what tool? Nearly all backup is done to NAS and nearly all is incremental. As a general question, yes of course. But specifically we would need to know what tool you are going to use. You've already stated in the original post and reiterated again and again that Windows cannot do incremental to a NAS, so we have to assume you are asking about something else.... but what? Veeam? If so, yes.

        Yes Dear Scott, i will use Veeam, i'm really pleased with it, it is free and can do daily incremental backup of my volumes to a NAS and what really impressed me is that i can even do incremental daily system image backup, something which is really great and also i can create a veeam USB recovery media in case of disaster and boot from USB and recover my system from NAS (which have many system restore point)
        WOW that is really awesome, thank you for advising me to change my WBS, it is very very limited comparing to Veeam
        i never imagine that i can find such powerful backup solution like veeam for free, wow

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Okay great, with Veeam you can use NAS for sure. That is the way that I would go.

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
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            but how such a friendly powerful tool like veeam can be free ?? incredible

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              but how such a friendly powerful tool like veeam can be free ?? incredible

              Many of the big features and the ability to scale are not free. Veeam makes a LOT of money 😉

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
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                i never imagine i can find such tool for free, therefor i was sticking to WBS in my first posts

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  Veeam Endpoint Recovery free works on physical devices. 8-) I have it running on my office machine here as well as at home.

                  i really thank you very much for your suggestion Dear @dafyre, i appreciate it 🙂

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    i never imagine i can find such tool for free, therefor i was sticking to WBS in my first posts

                    At small size, many of the best tools are free. They want small companies to try them and get to know them before growing into big companies that can pay for them.

                    Unitrends is free at this size too, if you were virtualized.

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by IT-ADMIN

                      yeah you are right Dear Scott, that is their philosophy
                      but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?
                      because i have one XenSever Host (2 VM guest in it) and till now i didn't put a backup solution for it !

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?

                        No, because their free product and their XenServer product are completely different products. They don't have a free XenServer product yet after having bought the company that makes that software.

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                        • DanpD
                          Danp
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                          Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Danp
                            last edited by

                            @Danp said:

                            Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                            Even KVM?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Danp said:

                              Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                              Even KVM?

                              Nope

                              Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                              Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Danp said:

                                Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                                Even KVM?

                                Nope

                                Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                                Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                                So not all major. LOL

                                Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Danp said:

                                  Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                                  Even KVM?

                                  Nope

                                  Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                                  Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                                  So not all major. LOL

                                  Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                                  Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Danp said:

                                    Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                                    Even KVM?

                                    Nope

                                    Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                                    Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                                    So not all major. LOL

                                    Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                                    Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

                                    http://xenserver.org/about-xenserver-open-source.html

                                    It looks like it is still managed by Citrix?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Danp said:

                                      Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                                      Even KVM?

                                      Nope

                                      Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                                      Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                                      So not all major. LOL

                                      Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                                      Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

                                      XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver
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                                        Here is the site for the Linux Foundation managed version. http://xenproject.org/

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          OK, I think - so did @DustinB3403 install Xen or XenServer?

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            XenServer 6.5 from the linux foundation.

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