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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      yes guys you are right, i'm not talking about the economic benefit i get behind using virtualization (since i have small environment) but rather what is matter for me is disaster recovery, and yeah you are right again because dealing with hardware is more tricky

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      • coliverC
        coliver @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        yes guys you are right, i'm not talking about the economic benefit i get behind using virtualization (since i have small environment) but rather what is matter for me is disaster recovery, and yeah you are right again because dealing with hardware is more tricky

        Oh, yes DR is made significantly easier when dealing with virtual machines instead of physical servers. If you have a good backup of the VM you can quickly move it to a different server and have it up and running in minutes.

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          by the way i have a question here : can i move the bare metal system image to another physical server ?? (both server are identical )

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN Yes you could, but the question is why.

            If you virtualize the environment, you simply import the backup to a different hypervisor host and are up and running in a little time as that takes.

            You're attempting to say that "Because we're such a small shop that we can't benefit from virtualizing" but this is just untrue. Any organization can benefit from virtualizing. Any size at all.

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
              license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                therefor i decided to keep everything as it is and just thinking of a solution to recover myself in case of disaster (and just keep this legacy of bare metal servers, only 2 DELL poweredge T310)

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
                  license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

                  No licensing for a hypervisor (or at least none you have to worry about). Look at Hyper-V or XenServer. Both are free to use for everyone. The only licensing you will need to worry about are your Windows licensing (if you have them).

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
                    license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

                    No licensing for a hypervisor (or at least none you have to worry about). Look at Hyper-V or XenServer. Both are free to use for everyone. The only licensing you will need to worry about are your Windows licensing (if you have them).

                    yes this is what i'm talking about: my windows server license 😞

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by

                      i think that i'm in a good position now with this veeam, it really save my ass, lol

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
                        license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

                        Licensing I understand, meaning you have cracked licenses. The P2V process is really quite simple on any hypervisor you use.

                        Only in rare circumstances should you consider not virtualizing. One being extremely rare/custom hardware that doesn't work on any hypervisor.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
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                          ok let's suppose that i P2V, if the P and V is online what will happen ??
                          i think both version will be blacklisted, isn't it ???

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            by the way i didn't crack anything, i found this preexisted 😞

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre
                              last edited by

                              What you do is you do the P2V... and then shut down the Physical machine and boot up the Virtual Machine... Ideally, your end users would only see a short blip as things have been rebooted. If you do this in the Off-hours, your users shouldn't notice a thing.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                by the way i didn't crack anything, i found this preexisted 😞

                                Being properly licensed is just a cost of doing business. You should really try and resolve that... Either way though aren't you already breaking your licensing? Why does moving it to a different server matter?

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre
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                                  As part of your move to virtualization, I'd recommend getting your OS Licensing up to snuff as well. Don't want any legal troubles from Microsoft or other companies.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    His licensing concerns were covered in another thread. In his part of the world, they simply don't care about licensing and won't pay for it.

                                    That whole concept went on for about 2-3 hours.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender I musta missed it.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        His licensing concerns were covered in another thread. In his part of the world, they simply don't care about licensing and won't pay for it.

                                        That whole concept went on for about 2-3 hours.

                                        Ah... I must have missed that one?

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          lol, @Dashrender is up to date, thank you for clarifying that, i'm not ready to spend 3 hours again to say that here they don't care about licensing, in brief this is another story

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            lol, @Dashrender is up to date, thank you for clarifying that, i'm not ready to spend 3 hours again to say that here they don't care about licensing, in brief this is another story

                                            It's all good. We got the short, short version. 🙂

                                            That may actually be a valid concern though, as I have seen a few P2V tools actually make Windows request another activation.

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