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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      Looks good to me.. though what do you mean move the V to the hypervisor? Normally the P2V tools do that for you, at least they do with ESXi, don't know about Hyper-V or XenServer

      i mean by that after virtualizing the P, it will gave me a VM, then i will import the VM to my Xenserver
      as far as i'm concerned VMware vCenter Converter who perform the P2V, is there any other tool that import the VM directly from the P to XenServer ??

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        You can't use VMWare's tool to create the VM. You have to use Xen's tool to create the image.

        @DustinB3403 - Help!

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
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          really, i though all VM has the same extension and can be imported into all hypervisors no matter how they were P2V,
          @scottalanmiller ,@DustinB3403 , @JaredBusch help ...lol

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            it looks like our IT pros having a rest
            enjoy

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              So with XenServer (and specifically NAUBackup) the files that are created are VM_Name.xva which are specific to Xen.

              The other hypervisors I'm uncertain of what they create.

              Sorry I can't be more help.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                Can you explain the P2V process for XenServer?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Can you explain the P2V process for XenServer?

                  Well its not P2V for XenServer.

                  It's P2V for what ever server OS your using.

                  We've used and had success with VMWare's P2V tool to an open format. Which is usable on XenServer.

                  We didn't have much luck with XenServers P2V tool on XenServer oddly. Generally the recommendation is to just build a new VM server, reinstall your applications, and move any required files onto it.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Sure, but it's likely @IT-ADMIN can't do that because of his licensing issue. So doing an actual P2V is kinda important here.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      The P2V process is dependent on the OS he's using.

                      I'd recommend trying VMWare's P2V Tool first to build an .OVA and import that into XenServer. (Or whatever his hypervisor is)

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        why there is such limitation, is it because i'm using xenserver ??
                        what about using Hyper-v or ESXI, does the P2V would be easier ???

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          OVA files are an open-format.

                          Meaning every Hypervisor should support importing them into your Hypervisor.

                          The backup tool I use, creates a backup file for the type of Hypervisor I'm using. Which is XenServer.

                          So it's much simpler to import a file that is designed for that system( .XVA), rather than a generic one (.OVA) when importing into XenServer.

                          Does it make sense?

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            OVA files are an open-format.

                            Meaning every Hypervisor should support importing them into your Hypervisor.

                            The backup tool I use, creates a backup file for the type of Hypervisor I'm using. Which is XenServer.

                            So it's much simpler to import a file that is designed for that system( .XVA), rather than a generic one (.OVA) when importing into XenServer.

                            Does it make sense?

                            it make sense for me,
                            so .OVA is designed to be imported into EXSI not XenServer, isn't it ??

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN No that's not correct.

                              Described here
                              is the description:

                              An OVF is a collection of items in a single folder. Most commonly this is a description file (.ovf) a manifest file (.mf), and virtual machine state files (*.vhd or *.vmdk)

                              An OVA is a single file. The OVA is the OVF folder contents all zipped into a single file. The purpose of the OVA is when you want to take an OVF and share it, or give it as a download. The OVA needs to be opened into the OVF before it can be consumed.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                OK, I think - so did @DustinB3403 install Xen or XenServer?

                                XenServer is a Citrix branding of the XCP distro of Xen.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  anyone know a free backup solution for XenServer
                                  something like veeam lol

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  anyone know a free backup solution for XenServer
                                  something like veeam lol

                                  Nothing comparable to Veeam.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

                                    As it should because the OS sees a change in hardware. This is yet another "one of those" items on the list of "why we always virtualize from day one." It's a small caveat, but it is there.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.

                                      i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken 😞

                                      Its' changing the underlying hardware. It should be expected that you will need to re-authenticate. We've discussed exactly this limitation stopping you from virtualizing in another thread.

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                                        IT-ADMIN @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,

                                        does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,

                                          does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??

                                          That is likely yes.

                                          If you were so easily able to search for a CD key, and in your country you clearly don't care about being properly licensed what is stopping you or the company you work for from finding another product key?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,

                                            does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??

                                            Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.

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