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    • J
      Jason Banned @IT-ADMIN
      last edited by Jason

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      OK, can a restore point decrypte the ransomed data ??

      Not decrypt! Nothing can decrypt except the key that you get when you pay the ransom.

      If you roll back to BEFORE the data was encrypted AND the restore point itself was not encrypted then you are okay.

      for this reason it is very recommended to store your system images in another physical storage not on the same machine

      Not just that but preferably with a system that can lock it as read-only once it's backed up. Which is great for audits as well.

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        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
        last edited by

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        OK, can a restore point decrypte the ransomed data ??

        Not decrypt! Nothing can decrypt except the key that you get when you pay the ransom.

        If you roll back to BEFORE the data was encrypted AND the restore point itself was not encrypted then you are okay.

        for this reason it is very recommended to store your system images in another physical storage not on the same machine

        Correct, but it would need to be one that is decoupled, which is very difficult to do.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Jason
          last edited by

          @Jason said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          OK, can a restore point decrypte the ransomed data ??

          Not decrypt! Nothing can decrypt except the key that you get when you pay the ransom.

          If you roll back to BEFORE the data was encrypted AND the restore point itself was not encrypted then you are okay.

          for this reason it is very recommended to store your system images in another physical storage not on the same machine

          Not just that but preferably with a system that can lock it as read-only once it's backed up. Which is great for audits as well.

          Decoupled or locked, as Jason points out. It needs to be read only or it will get ransomed too.

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            IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            i guess setting up an account on the backup destination so that veeam authenticate against will make the backup decoupled

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              i guess setting up an account on the backup destination so that veeam authenticate against will make the backup decoupled

              No, if ANYTHING running on your server can talk to the storage, it is not decoupled. That is tightly coupled. Things like Unitrends appliances stand BETWEEN your systems and the backup storage. That's lightly decoupled. Tapes are fully decoupled.

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              • StrongBadS
                StrongBad
                last edited by

                I have heard that a lot of the ransoms are on the low side. Under $1000. Which is a lot of money, but not crippling. Generally a no brainer to a business.

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                  Jason Banned
                  last edited by

                  Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

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                    scottalanmiller @Jason
                    last edited by

                    @Jason said:

                    Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                    That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Jason said:

                      Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                      That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                      What about Veeam End Point Protection?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Jason said:

                        Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                        That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                        What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                        I'm having a bit of Dejavu here.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Jason said:

                          Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                          That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                          What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                          I'm having a bit of Dejavu here.

                          Well I'm not going to say it can't be scheduled.. so there 😛

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Jason said:

                            Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                            That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                            What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                            Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Jason said:

                              Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                              That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                              What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                              Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

                              The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

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                                scottalanmiller @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Jason said:

                                Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                                That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                                What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                                Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

                                The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

                                Yes, but that is the only gap that there is. It is fully coupled to the network.

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                                  coliver @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Jason said:

                                  Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                                  That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                                  What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                                  Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

                                  The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

                                  Yes, but that is the only gap that there is. It is fully coupled to the network.

                                  Yes, that adds a huge amount of risk.

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                                    IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    can i have 2 scheduled backup with veeam or it is limited to one schedule backup ??
                                    i ask this question because i want to setup 2 schedule backup : one for data and one for system image ,
                                    any thoughts ??

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      If you are using the Veeam Endpoint Recovery Free, it looks like only a single schedule.

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        thank you Dear @dafyre for the info

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                                          IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

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                                            coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

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                                            Entire Computer

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