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    Proliant GL360 G5 worth the price?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      Look for the DL380 rather than the DL360, much better drive options. Price is typically almost the same. We have a DL385 G5. Still a good unit.

      I have 2 DL380 G5's still in production (8 years old). I want to migrate off of them and use them as a backup applicance - but damn the drives are not cheap.
      RAID 6 - eight 1 TB drives would cost me around $2K, and give me 6 TB of storage.

      Makes me seriously consider other choices which cheaper drive options, but then with a chassis for them, still looking around the same cost and no compute power (thinking NAS).

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        RAID 6 - eight 1 TB drives would cost me around $2K, and give me 6 TB of storage.

        That's a lot considering for backup you can get a 6TB RAID 1 array for a fraction of that cost.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          RAID 6 - eight 1 TB drives would cost me around $2K, and give me 6 TB of storage.

          That's a lot considering for backup you can get a 6TB RAID 1 array for a fraction of that cost.

          That's my point! Of course for the DL380 G5, you can't get 6 TB drives. My machine only takes 2.5" drives, huge limitations

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            I found a 2TB 2.5 7200 SAS Drive for $399.99 ..

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            • J
              Jason Banned
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              We only use servers that take 2.5" drives anymore. More density. The backup servers we have Sata drives instead of SAS though, since it's not live data, there's only about 30 VMs bening backuped up to each backup server. Actual servers have no local storage.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                That's my point! Of course for the DL380 G5, you can't get 6 TB drives. My machine only takes 2.5" drives, huge limitations

                With 6TB drives you just need two and a $299 Synology and you have that much 🙂

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Plus with a new NAS you get a warranty again, even if not of the same caliber. But if parts fail, they get replaced.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Plus with a new NAS you get a warranty again, even if not of the same caliber. But if parts fail, they get replaced.

                    LOL at that price I'm not sure I care about the warranty.

                    The problem with this solution is no compute power. AND I need to make sure I don't have throughput issues.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      The problem with this solution is no compute power.

                      Why is that an issue? Once you have more power than you can leverage, why get more? More just costs more at the plug. Lower compute power more appropriate for your needs is actually a bonus.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        LOL at that price I'm not sure I care about the warranty.

                        It's still valuable. Everything is covered for years at under half the total price!

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          AND I need to make sure I don't have throughput issues.

                          That's the only concern, are RAID 1 drives fast enough to take the data ingress.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by Dashrender

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            AND I need to make sure I don't have throughput issues.

                            That's the only concern, are RAID 1 drives fast enough to take the data ingress.

                            I actually don't know - as much as I spout to others "what IOPs do you need" I've never successfully discovered my own need. I've tried a few tools a few times and walked away a day or two later just confused. Hard to admit..

                            I do admit I need help in getting that working so I can use it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              It'll be IOPS, not throughput, that is your bottleneck here, most likely. You might need to go to a four bay unit. That will double the ingress rate. And 7200 RPM drives are a must, that means Red Pro, 5400 are almost certainly going to be too slow.

                              What data is being sent to this? How much over what period of time?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Actually, don't answer that here. Post a new thread asking the question and just link to here as a reference. Put in the info about the $2K 2.5" RAID 6 idea and the NAS with SATA drives idea and let's run through some diagnostics.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  OK

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Thanks! Now back to the regularly scheduled programming.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Did the OP end up buying anything?

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by stacksofplates

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Did the OP end up buying anything?

                                        Yes, I got the DL380 G5. $190

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          And how is it working for you?

                                          Are you happy with the purchase?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            What did you load onto it?

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