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    What Is Your Educational Goal

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @JaredBusch said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Except generally neither is true. You are certainly not self employed and rarely do you work for a consulting firm.

      I would disagree with that because my personal experience is that I know many people that work IT consulting via agencies. Not doing it themselves. Prior to getting social via SW and ML, I knew exactly 2 people that did it themselves as you did.

      via agencies? where did their paycheck come from? directly from the companies they worked for, or from the agency?

      Agencies of course. That's why agencies are used, they handle the payroll.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        Where you doing the advisement role that you do for many of us here? or something else for these consulting gigs?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          Where you doing the advisement role that you do for many of us here? or something else for these consulting gigs?

          This was long ago. I did anything. From desktop support to server racking to emergency systems administration to security work for the fed. Could be anything.

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          • bbigfordB
            bbigford @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            It's I suppose believable that there are parents that feel this way, but the student/child? Wow - can we say brain washed?

            So I blame this on high school. The average (I'm guessing) high school grad has never worked. By the time that @Minion-Queen, @art_of_shred and I were out of high school we each had years of experience (we all went to school together, that's why the example.) I was working as an IT intern at 13, then did farm work till I was legal to get a normal job and worked continuously through the rest of high school and during my college time. So both high school and college were always "sideline" activities to actually being in the real world and having jobs and careers for all of us.

            But for lots and lots of people, high school is their entire focus. It is all that they know and, of course, people who work in schools are focused on that as "the whole world" in the same way. If you think about how there is a huge group of people who live their lives reminiscing about the "glory days" of high school and how cool that senior year football game and homecoming dance were and the rest of life is just working the cash register at the local hardware store and being depressed as life is never as good as high school.

            We that same crowd exists, one level up, in college. There are tons of adults for whom college was the "glory days" or they imagine that it would have been and they want their kids to have those same awesome memories and they feel that a happy life and a good career are impossible dreams So, avoiding the hell that is their vision of adult life for four years while they party at college avoiding the responsibilities that will follow seems like the only possible way to at least have a memory of what happiness was like.

            You never find people with these feelings that also went on to great careers or are happy with where they are in life.

            ...and THAT is the reason I stopped working for a mid-size public school district after some years of service, about a month ago. Never again, if I can help it. Never again.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I did K12 school work and I liked it, to some degree. But I answered to no one and it was a small, private school. I'd love to help schools down here in Central America. Their needs are very different.

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              • bbigfordB
                bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                I did K12 school work and I liked it, to some degree. But I answered to no one and it was a small, private school. I'd love to help schools down here in Central America. Their needs are very different.

                The place I was in was VERY political, run by people that shouldn't be waving an iron fist, but instead listen once in a while. As soon as you contradict them, they plug their ears and open their mouths. Did I like the network though? Definitely. It was pretty laid back outside of administration politics.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I donated all of the gear that the school had, so there was no means for them to say anything 🙂

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco @bbigford
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                    @BBigford said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    It's I suppose believable that there are parents that feel this way, but the student/child? Wow - can we say brain washed?

                    So I blame this on high school. The average (I'm guessing) high school grad has never worked. By the time that @Minion-Queen, @art_of_shred and I were out of high school we each had years of experience (we all went to school together, that's why the example.) I was working as an IT intern at 13, then did farm work till I was legal to get a normal job and worked continuously through the rest of high school and during my college time. So both high school and college were always "sideline" activities to actually being in the real world and having jobs and careers for all of us.

                    But for lots and lots of people, high school is their entire focus. It is all that they know and, of course, people who work in schools are focused on that as "the whole world" in the same way. If you think about how there is a huge group of people who live their lives reminiscing about the "glory days" of high school and how cool that senior year football game and homecoming dance were and the rest of life is just working the cash register at the local hardware store and being depressed as life is never as good as high school.

                    We that same crowd exists, one level up, in college. There are tons of adults for whom college was the "glory days" or they imagine that it would have been and they want their kids to have those same awesome memories and they feel that a happy life and a good career are impossible dreams So, avoiding the hell that is their vision of adult life for four years while they party at college avoiding the responsibilities that will follow seems like the only possible way to at least have a memory of what happiness was like.

                    You never find people with these feelings that also went on to great careers or are happy with where they are in life.

                    ...and THAT is the reason I stopped working for a mid-size public school district after some years of service, about a month ago. Never again, if I can help it. Never again.

                    I ran screaming from K12 IT work, and never looked back. It takes a special kind of sucker to do that job. I wouldn't go back to it if you had a gun to my man parts.

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