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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      Also wondering, for people who have had compatibility issues, was this with the modern XML formats or the old ones? Microsoft's move to XML formats is what really changed things.

      For me it was old ones. I was looking in 2008, shortly after Office 2007 and XML versions came out, but before we started using it.

      You're making it sound like things are much better today.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Romo
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        @Romo Is that both office suites running on the same OS?

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        • RomoR
          Romo @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller Yes

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Also wondering, for people who have had compatibility issues, was this with the modern XML formats or the old ones? Microsoft's move to XML formats is what really changed things.

            For me it was old ones. I was looking in 2008, shortly after Office 2007 and XML versions came out, but before we started using it.

            You're making it sound like things are much better today.

            I noticed an improvement when the XML formats released. Don't know if things have improved since that point. I don't often see issues, but I don't often see attempts, either.

            Sounds like we need to run some tests!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Romo
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              @Romo said:

              @scottalanmiller Yes

              So can't be font related then.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Romo said:

                @scottalanmiller Yes

                So can't be font related then.

                These are exactly the types of problems that I saw back in 2008. Even as something as simple as what Romo is showing. Why are they different?

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                • RomoR
                  Romo
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Romo said:

                  @scottalanmiller Yes

                  So can't be font related then.

                  No, same computer same fonts.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Romo said:

                    @scottalanmiller Yes

                    So can't be font related then.

                    These are exactly the types of problems that I saw back in 2008. Even as something as simple as what Romo is showing. Why are they different?

                    Probably the same reason that web pages render differently in two different browsers. HTML and Word files are both XML markup files and Word/LibreOffice and IE/Chrome are really just XML browsers.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      That actually makes total sense and means we'll never be able to fully flow from one to the other without these worries.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        That actually makes total sense and means we'll never be able to fully flow from one to the other without these worries.

                        Not unless someone publishes an official "this is how it is supposed to render" document to follow. The rendering is a little subjective.

                        PDF is not subjective and avoids this problem.

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                        • BRRABillB
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                          Yeah, that's the kind of stuff we also saw.

                          Our reports are all chock full to the margin of tables and charts. You can imagine what happens.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Do you have any generic reports to send around? Would be interesting to see how they turn out in LibreOffice here.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Do you have any generic reports to send around? Would be interesting to see how they turn out in LibreOffice here.

                              Not really.

                              I will see what I can dig up and report back.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                I wonder what happens if we open and then save in LibreOffice. We should be able to make PDFs to compare their outputs.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  I installed LibreOffice. I'll see what happens, and can redact some stuff and post.

                                  Not today, though.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Good luck.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      I just quickly opened one that looked complex and it looked fine.

                                      I reached out to our word processing team to get some samples of really complex stuff.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Awesome. At least we know it isn't blatantly awful.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Awesome. At least we know it isn't blatantly awful.

                                          Well, one file does not a test make.

                                          Also, it HAS been 10+ years.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            It was probably OpenOffice too, not LibreOffice. Not that they aren't basically the same thing but LibreOffice, I think, has put more work into compatibility than OpenOffice did.

                                            And the LibreOffice 5 family is out now, too. Lots of advancements there.

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