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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      They won't but their staff will. I work with a doctors who would have their staff do this.

      Now picture this.... this has to be done EVERY time that the system restarts. Whether a reboot or power loss or whatever. Even just a software reboot.

      The USB stick has to be stored somewhere. Someone has to find it. Someone has to reboot the system with it in. This takes time.

      How many times will this problem come up before the USB stick is discretely left in place, accidentally left in place or things go down and no one can figure out what to do?

      Realistically, it doesn't work. And there is no legal or practical reason for doing it. Why even have the discussion? Instead, why don't they just lock up the NAS?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        So as with any discussion of this nature, the first thing to do is sit down the people driving the discussion and say....

        We need to stop leading with technical solutions and instead step back and define our goals and work from there. What is the business goal that we hope to accomplish?

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
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          I'll start a new thread on this.

          I hear what you are saying.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            @BRRABill I can post some screen shots of the OS in here if you'd like - just let me know what you're curious about.

            @MattSpeller: How do you do backups of your Synology NAS?

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill we backup to a larger synology NAS using their integrated stuff

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              Edit: this is all browser based - that's a screen shot of chrome 🙂

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @MattSpeller
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                @MattSpeller

                Does their integrated stuff do full backups each time, or incremental?

                Can you tell me a little more about it?

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said:

                  @MattSpeller

                  Does their integrated stuff do full backups each time, or incremental?

                  Can you tell me a little more about it?

                  You can't do incremental backups unless you set up multiple volumes. If you only have one volume it will only do a full backup.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said:

                    @MattSpeller

                    Does their integrated stuff do full backups each time, or incremental?

                    Can you tell me a little more about it?

                    Our setup is pretty ... unique and I wouldn't recommend it.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @MattSpeller
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                      @MattSpeller said:

                      Synology DS412+ (cloudsync user's folders is niiiiiice)

                      Setup a backup to cloud if you have the bandwidth, IOsafe or something else if you dont.

                      This is what I am looking to get more info on.

                      I convinced them to stop storing data on desktops and buy a NAS. Now I am just looking for the last peice ... how do get their data from the NAS to an offsite location.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill Well I can tell you that the cloudsync thing is pretty slick. It's like modern day folder redirection but better. Can go into more detail with screen shots etc if you like.

                        For offsite backups we replicate to another synology nas using their built in software. It works.... alright. I'd prefer another way but we work with what we've got.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @stacksofplates
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                          @johnhooks said:

                          You can't do incremental backups unless you set up multiple volumes. If you only have one volume it will only do a full backup.

                          I was browsing through the help files for the device, and it looks like you can do other than full backup? Or am I reading this wrong?

                          "With the block-level backup option, your NAS will back up only modified blocks, and this is practical especially when the backup is executed over the Internet"

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            You can't do incremental backups unless you set up multiple volumes. If you only have one volume it will only do a full backup.

                            I was browsing through the help files for the device, and it looks like you can do other than full backup? Or am I reading this wrong?

                            "With the block-level backup option, your NAS will back up only modified blocks, and this is practical especially when the backup is executed over the Internet"

                            You can do it, but you need to set up more than one volume on the disks. It won't do it if you only set up one large volume. So either make multiple volumes, attach a USB drive, or send it over the network.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks said:

                              You can do it, but you need to set up more than one volume on the disks. It won't do it if you only set up one large volume. So either make multiple volumes, attach a USB drive, or send it over the network.

                              I'm looking for a way to get the data offsite.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                If you have something like RSnapshots as a backup process, that would be fine. but just mirroring isn't useful.

                                Can you explain this?

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  BTW: from Googling around tonight, it appears the SYnology can also be setup to use commercial backup programs like CrashPlan.

                                  Though that CloudSync that @MattSpeller is talking about also looks killer.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    If you have something like RSnapshots as a backup process, that would be fine. but just mirroring isn't useful.

                                    Can you explain this?

                                    Rsnapshot will let you set up hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly snapshots. We have rsnapshot running 10 hourly snapshots, 7 daily, 4 weekly, etc to our synology. We have a decent amount of hourlys because we do a lot of CAD work and if someone needs to go back and get a version from 2 hours ago it's easy to do.

                                    It just uses rsync with hard links to do incremental backups and stores them in separate folders.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      BTW: from Googling around tonight, it appears the SYnology can also be setup to use commercial backup programs like CrashPlan.

                                      Though that CloudSync that @MattSpeller is talking about also looks killer.

                                      Synology does a LOT of stuff. You can add so many things to it through its "app store" and you can get full root access so anything that runs on generic Linux can be installed on it just fine, too.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        BTW: from Googling around tonight, it appears the SYnology can also be setup to use commercial backup programs like CrashPlan.

                                        Though that CloudSync that @MattSpeller is talking about also looks killer.

                                        It does, but we have a VM specifically for that. I don't how it would perform on the synology, but I didn't want to add any more services to it. The VM just mounts the normal shares and backs them up to Crashplan.

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