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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      Fresh from my (non infamous???) backup thread, I bring you this new thread. The answers to this will be quite helpful, as I run into this kind of scenario all the time.

      Very small office. Let's say 5-10 employees. They are all storing data on their individual desktops.

      Obviously, shared storage would be a big upgrade in many ways. So how do we get there?

      What would you recommend in this scenario?

      New server box with Server 2012/2016?
      NAS box?
      All cloud based?

      Once we get that down, we'll discuss backups, so please consider that we'll need to back this up in your recommendations.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        I would build a whitebox with XenServer. Create a virtual File Server from that and connect everyone to it.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          You could build an an MDADM RAID10 if you don't have a hardware raid controller from this guide here

          Which includes running XenServer from a USB drive. This is listed for 4 disks, but as many as you can load into it would work as well.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by DustinB3403

            Once your MDADM RAID10 XenServer is up and running, I'd follow this guide (still a work in progress) to building an ISO and File server.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller
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              NAS - easy to use & manage.

              Synology DS412+ (cloudsync user's folders is niiiiiice)

              Stuff it with the biggest drives you can afford, RAID10, done.

              Setup a backup to cloud if you have the bandwidth, IOsafe or something else if you dont.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
                last edited by

                So far sounds like no one thinks Server 2012/2016 is an option here?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Licensing cost is just the biggest issue.

                  If you can have what you need, while saving a good chunk of money on licensing, why wouldn't you?

                  If you really want Microsoft, set it up as a VM on your preferred Hypervisor.

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                  • J
                    Jason Banned
                    last edited by

                    Windows File servers provide some nice feature with FSRM as well as deduplication compared to a NAS. However with your small scale you may not need those features.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      At that size I would definitely be looking at a NAS like ioSafe, Synology and ReadyNAS. Something in the two to four bay range with RAID 1 (2 bay) or RAID 10 (4 bay.) Unless you need server features, which is unlikely at this size, I would not go that route.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Unless you need server features

                        What would you qualify as a "server feature"?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          So far sounds like no one thinks Server 2012/2016 is an option here?

                          Cost would be outrageous for a company of this size. What would even bring them to the table, realistically? Spending $700 on licensing for what would amount to zero features is more money on software alone than the entire solution should cost.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Unless you need server features

                            What would you qualify as a "server feature"?

                            Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

                              Right, yeah I don't think so, nope.

                              The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

                                What would you describe as "doing users?"

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Synology (including ioSafe) and ReadyNAS both have AD Integration (useless in a group this small since you are below the AD threshold) and NTFS ACLs. Those are the "user" features.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Adding @Brett-at-ioSafe you can guess which vendor he is with.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

                                      Right, yeah I don't think so, nope.

                                      The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

                                      It will do Samba with users and permissions through its web gui.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        It will do Samba with users and permissions through its web gui.

                                        Meaning SMB. Samba is the name of the underlying code but not relevant to the users of a NAS - that's just under the hood. It is an SMB server like Windows. It does the same SMB features that Windows would do.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Active Directory, email server, instant messaging, database, etc.

                                          Right, yeah I don't think so, nope.

                                          The NAS (like the Synology) can do users?

                                          The synology NAS's are actually rather impressive. I'm much more fond of having a server, but with these beasties being so good it's hard to justify all the extra expense and maintenance of a server.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            What would you describe as "doing users?"

                                            Yeah after I typed that I thought it needed clarification.

                                            Having never installed one of these things, how does it integrate with Windows, I guess is the question.

                                            They'd have a Windows desktop logon, and then attach to a share, using the user account on the NAS?

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