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    Dell R430 with PERC H730 support SSD? (Samsung 850 Pro)

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      LAH3385
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      Any one knows if Dell R430 w/ PERC H730 support Samsung 850 Pro?
      I want to run a VM for myself but I do not want to use the HDD that came with it. I heard that some PERC does not support TRIM and using SSD w/o TRIM is a bad idea. I also read from somewhere else that 850 PRO can sustain couple of years on card w/o TRIM. Any idea?

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn
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        Your best bet is to get an EdgeSSD from XByte, the firmware on those will work with the PERC Controller.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Yeah, definitely reach out to @xByteSean and see what they can help you with.

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            LAH3385 @brianlittlejohn
            last edited by

            @brianlittlejohn said:

            Your best bet is to get an EdgeSSD from XByte, the firmware on those will work with the PERC Controller.

            Are they enterprise grade SSD?

            @Dashrender said:

            Yeah, definitely reach out to @xByteSean and see what they can help you with.

            Do I message them or will they reply to this thread?

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn
              last edited by

              They should reply. They are enterprise grade SSDs.

              http://www.xbyte.com/Edge-Enterprise-SSD.aspx

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                LAH3385 @brianlittlejohn
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                @brianlittlejohn said:

                They should reply. They are enterprise grade SSDs.

                http://www.xbyte.com/Edge-Enterprise-SSD.aspx

                Thanks, I'll wait for their reply

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Adding @ryan-from-xbyte @BradfromxByte @Lyndsie_xByte

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
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                    This is becoming a common thread.

                    DELL: LOWER YOUR SSD PRICES. 🙂

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said:

                      This is becoming a common thread.

                      DELL: LOWER YOUR SSD PRICES. 🙂

                      Though, they will never reach the levels of consumer based drives - so make sure to set expectations - but I don't expect them to be more than a few times consumer, not 10X, etc.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @BRRABill
                        last edited by MattSpeller

                        @BRRABill said:

                        This is becoming a common thread.

                        DELL: LOWER YOUR SSD PRICES. 🙂

                        Holy shit yes. I've moaned about it to every Dell rep. Means more work for me and no SSD sales for them. Lose / lose.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Though, they will never reach the levels of consumer based drives - so make sure to set expectations - but I don't expect them to be more than a few times consumer, not 10X, etc.

                          This is very important. The lowest that Dell could ever get is to the regular cost of an enterprise SSD, plus the needed vendor markup plus the huge cost of their warranty service plans. So at a minimum, double that of the normal market. Often higher.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                            If they could approach the price of the EDGE SSDs that xByte sells, that would work.

                            Would that be possible?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said:

                              If they could approach the price of the EDGE SSDs that xByte sells, that would work.

                              Would that be possible?

                              Absolutely it's possible, and even likely as market pressure will drive them down as the competition does the same thing...

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                                LAH3385
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                                Can't wait for enterprise SSD price to goes down. I'm hopping SSD will one day replace HDD as USB replace CD/DVD as they replace floppy disks.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  If they could approach the price of the EDGE SSDs that xByte sells, that would work.

                                  Would that be possible?

                                  No, because you are comparing apples to oranges. Dell only sells fully supported components that fall under the same support contract as the server itself.

                                  You can never get the cost of that anywhere close to the cost of just a component.

                                  The cost of that Dell support is huge. That's why everything from them has always costed more, because you are paying for the support. That's the reason you are talking to Dell in the first place. If you did not want that kind of support you'd be looking at things like SuperMicro.

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                                    Lyndsie_xByte Vendor
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                                    Hi @LAH3385,

                                    I am sorry for not getting back to you sooner! I notice that I started to reply yesterday and didn't hit send. Technology is only as good as the use, right?? 🙂

                                    Please email me lyndsie.ezell@xbyte.com and I will get you in touch with someone on our side that can address your questions and discuss some of our benchmark results.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
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                                      @Lyndsie_xByte

                                      I know your drives are compatible with the DELL servers (minus the yellow triangle in OMSA).

                                      How did you guys confirm they will flash amber when failing?

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill I believe they throw a SMART error at the controller, but you should double check that.

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                                        • mprftwM
                                          mprftw @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill The Edge drives are a great alternative and even Intel DC drives are very popular running on the premise that Intel being such a large company knows the cost of not having their drives work and so in a situation where Dell changed their firmware...Intel would be devoting a very sizable amount of their resources to making it work again! Let me know if you have any questions about either one.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @BRRABill I believe they throw a SMART error at the controller, but you should double check that.

                                            That's why I asked the source. 🙂

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