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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @stacksofplates
      last edited by dafyre

      @johnhooks said:

      @dafyre said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Having too little is a BIG deal, err on the side of too much, of course. But don't err on the side of double, it's just wasteful at best.

      This is why I like Dynamic Memory (in Hyper-V... not sure what VMware calls this)... Tell the system it can boot with 256 megs of ram, and use up to 1Gig... if it never needs more than 256, ideally, it won't ask for it.

      You can do the same with KVM.

      I knew it was available on other platforms, however, my experience (at the moment) is limited only to 2 of them.

      Edit: This is good to know about KVM. I'll soon have my desktop freed up at home.

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      • hobbit666H
        hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Are you making Ansible or Chef recipes to handle all of this? Are you moving to DevOps? Unless those things are true, no Docker won't make any sense for you. Containers do not really lighten the load on your hypervisor, that's not the reason for using them.

        No so I think small VM's is for me lol

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Definitely, just make them lean and tune as necessary. VMs will continue to be the staple of the SMB for a very long time. That will not remain true for forever, but for a very long time.

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          • hobbit666H
            hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller Any tips on how to tune a Linux machine?
            I'll be running
            Unifi Controller V4
            Zabbix (Latest Version)
            Snipe-IT - once they develop the fixed asset number thingy

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @hobbit666
              last edited by

              @hobbit666 said:

              @scottalanmiller Any tips on how to tune a Linux machine?
              I'll be running
              Unifi Controller V4
              Zabbix (Latest Version)
              Snipe-IT - once they develop the fixed asset number thingy

              Easy way is to start with the recommended minimums and monitor over time. Watch the systems to see what the memory is doing and tune up or down as needed. We have a good idea about certain workloads that we deploy regularly so can set good starting points very easily. But for new workloads, you can put in a reasonable guess and then tune.

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              • hobbit666H
                hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Easy way is to start with the recommended minimums and monitor over time. Watch the systems to see what the memory is doing and tune up or down as needed. We have a good idea about certain workloads that we deploy regularly so can set good starting points very easily. But for new workloads, you can put in a reasonable guess and then tune.

                What's the best method to "monitor" the resources in Linux?

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @hobbit666
                  last edited by

                  @hobbit666 said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Easy way is to start with the recommended minimums and monitor over time. Watch the systems to see what the memory is doing and tune up or down as needed. We have a good idea about certain workloads that we deploy regularly so can set good starting points very easily. But for new workloads, you can put in a reasonable guess and then tune.

                  What's the best method to "monitor" the resources in Linux?

                  What hypervisor are you using? That will generally tell you when you are maxing out in memory. If not check out:

                  top
                  

                  to see what resources your app is using.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @hobbit666
                    last edited by

                    @hobbit666 said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Easy way is to start with the recommended minimums and monitor over time. Watch the systems to see what the memory is doing and tune up or down as needed. We have a good idea about certain workloads that we deploy regularly so can set good starting points very easily. But for new workloads, you can put in a reasonable guess and then tune.

                    What's the best method to "monitor" the resources in Linux?

                    Exactly what @coliver said. Htop and glances are also other popular ones.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
                      last edited by

                      I forgot about Glances. I need to set that one back up again.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @johnhooks said:

                        @hobbit666 said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Easy way is to start with the recommended minimums and monitor over time. Watch the systems to see what the memory is doing and tune up or down as needed. We have a good idea about certain workloads that we deploy regularly so can set good starting points very easily. But for new workloads, you can put in a reasonable guess and then tune.

                        What's the best method to "monitor" the resources in Linux?

                        Exactly what @coliver said. Htop and glances are also other popular ones.

                        Yep either of those work too. top is generally installed by default on most *nix systems though so you wouldn't have to install anything new.

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                        • hobbit666H
                          hobbit666
                          last edited by

                          They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @hobbit666
                            last edited by

                            @hobbit666 said:

                            They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

                            Really? I'm not sure you can get performance information from that host then. I've never seen anyone use the ESXi Free version so I don't know how it interacts with that kind of data.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                              last edited by

                              @hobbit666 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Easy way is to start with the recommended minimums and monitor over time. Watch the systems to see what the memory is doing and tune up or down as needed. We have a good idea about certain workloads that we deploy regularly so can set good starting points very easily. But for new workloads, you can put in a reasonable guess and then tune.

                              What's the best method to "monitor" the resources in Linux?

                              For a glance, the free command tells you all that you need to know. To see over time, sar does. To watching it for a while, top or vmstat.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                                last edited by

                                @hobbit666 said:

                                They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

                                I'd start by replacing that 😉

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                                • hobbit666H
                                  hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @hobbit666 said:

                                  They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

                                  I'd start by replacing that 😉

                                  BUT I DON'T WANT TO!!!!!!

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @hobbit666
                                    last edited by

                                    @hobbit666 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @hobbit666 said:

                                    They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

                                    I'd start by replacing that 😉

                                    BUT I DON'T WANT TO!!!!!!

                                    You don't have to... but that is going to be a limiting factor in a number of ways. Especially when you are looking at management or want to expand your infrastructure.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @hobbit666
                                      last edited by

                                      @hobbit666 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @hobbit666 said:

                                      They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

                                      I'd start by replacing that 😉

                                      BUT I DON'T WANT TO!!!!!!

                                      How are you backing up those servers right now? You can't use most of the free tools because you can't access the backup API in ESXi Free.

                                      Converting to Hyper-V is completely free from a software perspective and gives you so many more options.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                                        last edited by

                                        @hobbit666 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @hobbit666 said:

                                        They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

                                        I'd start by replacing that 😉

                                        BUT I DON'T WANT TO!!!!!!

                                        Have you used the alternatives? Some of them are seriously smooth.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @hobbit666 said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @hobbit666 said:

                                          They will be running on ESXi FREE 5.5update3

                                          I'd start by replacing that 😉

                                          BUT I DON'T WANT TO!!!!!!

                                          You don't have to... but that is going to be a limiting factor in a number of ways. Especially when you are looking at management or want to expand your infrastructure.

                                          Or performance, ease of use....

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