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    Additional DC not functioning if the Primary DC is down !!

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
      last edited by

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      @Dashrender said:

      You also have some term confusion here.

      There is no more PDC. Sure there is a FSMO role called PDC emulator, but it's just that - an emulator.

      Assuming your other domain controller is Windows 2000 or newer, both DCs are equal in the eyes of the domain.
      It's better to call them old DC and new DC or DC1 and DC2.. you pick a name that is meaningful for you.

      sorry i mean by PDC: primary DC

      that's still a misnomer - there is nothing really primary about it. it's just the first. And sure it holds the FSMO roles, but those can be moved at will, and even seized if the need arose.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
        last edited by

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @coliver said:

        What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

        both are windows server 2008 entreprise R2

        Wow - hefty licenses there.

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          @IT-ADMIN Right-click Active Directory Users and Computers and click Change Domain Controller.

          there is nothing called Change Domain Controller. in the submenu :

          0_1455045225008_2016-02-09_220941.png

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by Dashrender

            you launch it first, then change it at the top inside ADUC.

            0_1455045326587_2016-02-09 13_14_04-Active Directory Users and Computers.png

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              you launch it first, then change it at the top inside ADUC.

              0_1455045326587_2016-02-09 13_14_04-Active Directory Users and Computers.png

              great, i can see it now but i do not know what to type in :

              0_1455045430627_2016-02-09_221625.png

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                type in the name or IP of the new DC.

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  i think since the OK button is not activated, the DC2 is not seeing itself as a DC

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Did you run DCPromo on the new Domain Controller so that it actually became a DC?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Did you run DCPromo on the new Domain Controller so that it actually became a DC?

                        yeah off course, and choose it to be global catalog and DNS

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

                          yeah in DC1, i can see in both DC in domain controllers OU

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by IT-ADMIN

                            now the DC2 is offline and i set a static IP to it and set DNS to point to himself (because it is offline)
                            after i enter his ip, it shows online but giving me error message

                            0_1455045931145_444444.png

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN 0_1455046058773_2016-02-09_222702.png

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                With the working DC online, when you go to ADUC and look under the Domain Controllers OU, do you see both servers?

                                yeah in DC1, i can see in both DC in domain controllers OU

                                Can you switch to DC2 when DC1 is online?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  The preferred DNS server of the network card in your domain controllers should always point to themselves. Well, assuming that you are using standard Windows DNS.

                                  The alternate should then be the other DC.

                                  On DC 1
                                  DNS Preferred: 127.0.0.1
                                  DNS Alternate: 192.168.1.XX <- IP of DC2

                                  On DC 2
                                  DNS Preferred: 127.0.0.1
                                  DNS Alternate: 192.168.1.XX <- IP of DC1

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    What version of AD/Windows Server are you running?

                                    both are windows server 2008 entreprise R2

                                    Wow - hefty licenses there.

                                    No, we already now that about his organization.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      The preferred DNS server of the network card in your domain controllers should always point to themselves. Well, assuming that you are using standard Windows DNS.

                                      The alternate should then be the other DC.

                                      On DC 1
                                      DNS Preferred: 127.0.0.1
                                      DNS Alternate: 192.168.1.XX <- IP of DC2

                                      On DC 2
                                      DNS Preferred: 127.0.0.1
                                      DNS Alternate: 192.168.1.XX <- IP of DC1

                                      I typically point to the other DC for my Preferred DNS, and myself second. This allows for faster booting, but I see reasons for either way.

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        i'm so sorry for this delay, because it is midnight here, so do you think DNS setting make sense even if the DC2 is offline ??

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                                        • DenisKelleyD
                                          DenisKelley
                                          last edited by

                                          Best explanation regarding this that I've seen. See Jay's response:
                                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/post/4301599

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            let us suppose that DC2 is offline and cannot see DC1 (which is the main reason i want to make DC2 for high availability) how DNS setting make any difference ??

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