What am I missing here (Exchange 2010 on server 2012r2)
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@wirestyle22 said:
Isn't it more LAN-like than a cloud service? I suppose we could move our exchange server to a data-center and get more guaranteed connections and better power managemenet options/disaster recovery plans, but isn't that one of the benefits of the cloud or am I way off base here?
Well that's an advantage of hosted. Critical services should generally already be in a datacenter, in most cases.
But it's not LAN-like. Even on on premises Exchange server behaves as if it was its own thing.
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@JaredBusch said:
Strictly form the Exchange side, here are the comparative costs.
Exchange Online Plan 1: 200 * $4 = $800/month * 12 months = $9,600/year.
Exchange 2013 Standard = $655
Exchange 2013 User CAL = $72 * 200 = $14,400You also have to consider The costs for Office and such. but this is just the Exchange numbers.
And only the licensing cost. Doesn't include the Windows licensing, hardware costs, storage costs, backup software cost, backup hardware cost, Exchange admin cost, and so forth.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Isn't it more LAN-like than a cloud service? I suppose we could move our exchange server to a data-center and get more guaranteed connections and better power managemenet options/disaster recovery plans, but isn't that one of the benefits of the cloud or am I way off base here?
Well that's an advantage of hosted. Critical services should generally already be in a datacenter, in most cases.
But it's not LAN-like. Even on on premises Exchange server behaves as if it was its own thing.
I understand. Thank you!
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@Dashrender I am planning on migrating to office365 or another hosted exchange service from Exchange 2010 too.
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For sure but after 5 years...
$50k vs 14k also considering we already have the office licenses, (not 2013 mind you but most of our users are so light on office it doesn't matter)
Trust me, I 100% understand both sides of this, but I'm not the decision maker or the invoice signer.
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@Sparkum said:
For sure but after 5 years...
The you have to pay for the new licenses, migrate to the new system.... that's when the really big savings of the hosted solution come in.
Plus, don't forget, you need filtering, AV and that stuff and that's always hosted and often $1-$2 per user per month cutting the cost of O365 in half.
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For sure, the largest kicker is we would NEVER switch all of our users, (we are a retail establishment with hundreds and hundreds of generic email addresses)
We currently have a Barracuda Spam and Firewall so no matter what, that would stay on site and licensed. -
@Sparkum said:
We currently have a Barracuda Spam and Firewall so no matter what, that would stay on site and licensed.
Why would those stay? Wouldn't eliminating those be a top priority?
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@scottalanmiller As someone that will be migrating soon, are you saying that the av/spam filtering is included in o365 or you have a 3rd party providing services for these?
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller As someone that will be migrating soon, are you saying that the av/spam filtering is included in o365 or you have a 3rd party providing services for these?
It's included, it is the largest percentage of the value of the service. It's what makes it impossible to consider an on premises system based on cost. No way to compete.
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@Sparkum said:
For sure, the largest kicker is we would NEVER switch all of our users, (we are a retail establishment with hundreds and hundreds of generic email addresses)
We currently have a Barracuda Spam and Firewall so no matter what, that would stay on site and licensed.For those generic e-mail addresses, how are you using them? Are they proxy addresses, distribution groups or actual mailboxes?
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@scottalanmiller Cool. What about backups?
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@Sparkum said:
For sure, the largest kicker is we would NEVER switch all of our users, (we are a retail establishment with hundreds and hundreds of generic email addresses)
No way to make them aliases?
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller Cool. What about backups?
O365 is inclusive. It's $4, done. That's it. No other costs. Every, single thing is included.
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Nope, and its lets say roughly, 20 email addresses per retail location, so currently times something like 36? and growing every year.
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@Sparkum Right but are they all a 1:1 for a mailbox?
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They go to positions.
So if that person gets fired/quits there's no change on our end.
Just retail so turn over is high. -
You don't get charged per email address, you get charged per mailbox.user, right?
