Pertino - Is Anyone Successfully Using Any Version Above 510 with DNS/AD Connect?
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@Dashrender said:
Interesting - I don't expect to see AD leave the local LAN for at least another 5 years, for those that have it. That's a lot of SMBs that have a hard time using ZT.
I've seen people look at phasing it out. Not common, but it is definitely happening and accelerating. We did, for example.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I've seen people look at phasing it out. Not common, but it is definitely happening and accelerating. We did, for example.
What is your new method of authenticating?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Interesting - I don't expect to see AD leave the local LAN for at least another 5 years, for those that have it. That's a lot of SMBs that have a hard time using ZT.
I've seen people look at phasing it out. Not common, but it is definitely happening and accelerating. We did, for example.
Oh i agree - and I'm trying to do the same, and I've already one it for one client.
Sadly another client has a business manager who thinks the cloud is the devil and somehow local servers are safer... so they won't be changing anytime soon.
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@adam.ierymenko said:
As far as AD goes, our impression for a while has been that everything's moving to Microsoft's cloud AD service.
that hosted service is BRAND new, though. Only since Windows 10. So pretty much no one on it. I've seen way more people avoiding than people moving to it. It's the future of AD for sure, but AD is a huge market.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I've seen people look at phasing it out. Not common, but it is definitely happening and accelerating. We did, for example.
What is your new method of authenticating?
Mostly... we aren't authenticating. It's not needed today like it used to be. Tons of companies are moving away from it today, it just doesn't have the value that it used to have.
But when we need it, Azure AD.
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@Dashrender said:
Oh i agree - and I'm trying to do the same, and I've already one it for one client.
Same question for you @Dashrender What is your "AD"?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Mostly... we aren't authenticating. It's not needed today like it used to be. Tons of companies are moving away from it today, it just doesn't have the value that it used to have.
But when we need it, Azure AD.
Is there some form of SSO?
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@FATeknollogee said:
@Dashrender said:
Oh i agree - and I'm trying to do the same, and I've already one it for one client.
Same question for you @Dashrender What is your "AD"?
Personally I have a Windows 2012R2 onsite AD system. VM's of course.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Mostly... we aren't authenticating. It's not needed today like it used to be. Tons of companies are moving away from it today, it just doesn't have the value that it used to have.
But when we need it, Azure AD.
Is there some form of SSO?
We only run so many apps, so nearly everything is inside of Office 365. So not SSO itself, but it acts basically that way.
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@Dashrender I thought you just said you got rid of AD?
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Computers are moving more toward acting like phones. Instead of using WSUS, you'll use MDM to manage them. The laptop/desktop/tablet, whatever can check-in with the MDM server from anywhere, and get it's update instructions from there.
Intune is a good example of this.
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@scottalanmiller said:
We only run so many apps, so nearly everything is inside of Office 365. So not SSO itself, but it acts basically that way.
That makes sense.
For those of us with legacy apps, we have to wait for our vendors to "catch up" -
@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
We only run so many apps, so nearly everything is inside of Office 365. So not SSO itself, but it acts basically that way.
That makes sense.
For those of us with legacy apps, we have to wait for our vendors to "catch up"Or not use AD. Always an option.
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@Dashrender The cloud is the devil. Problem is that local servers are also the devil.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Or not use AD. Always an option.
Not when you need the app & AD is the only option to authenticate!
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Or not use AD. Always an option.
Not when you need the app & AD is the only option to authenticate!
What app requires AD for all authentication?
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@FATeknollogee For us though, ZT always tends to focus on the future. We don't work too hard to support things that are too legacy, at least right now, because we are a very lean little startup. If we had more resources we might if there were a demonstrated market.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Or not use AD. Always an option.
Not when you need the app & AD is the only option to authenticate!
huh - have you asked that vendor if they are developing to be able to use Azure AD as well as legacy AD?
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@Dashrender said:
@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Or not use AD. Always an option.
Not when you need the app & AD is the only option to authenticate!
huh - have you asked that vendor if they are developing to be able to use Azure AD as well as legacy AD?
Or just, you know, local authentication!
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@adam.ierymenko said:
@FATeknollogee For us though, ZT always tends to focus on the future. We don't work too hard to support things that are too legacy, at least right now, because we are a very lean little startup. If we had more resources we might if there were a demonstrated market.
Believe me, I love ZT. Getting ready to spend the $4/mo on a couple of networks
