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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said

      Simplified: Why would you run XenCenter?

      I started out on XC, but now do everything on XO.

      I was just wondering why there were always reboots on one, and never on the other.

      So it sounds like when 5 comes out, it'll tell you you need a reboot.

      It's definitely different than the Windows world. It's interesting to know you can install update on top of update, and THEN just reboot.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said

        Simplified: Why would you run XenCenter?

        And aren't you a XC evangelist for the Windows folk? LOL.

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        • olivierO
          olivier @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

          it'll tell you you need a reboot.

          It won't tell you anything, it will display the recommendation for each patch.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

            @scottalanmiller said

            Simplified: Why would you run XenCenter?

            And aren't you a XC evangelist for the Windows folk? LOL.

            Scott has always recommended using XenServer or Hyper-V over ESXi due to the business model. I think his gripe with XenCenter was the limited functionality prior to it being wide open.

            But with XO there is very little need for XC any more.

            I find XC is easier to manage a VM at times, just because of how I use my system.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @olivier
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              @olivier said i

              It won't tell you anything, it will display the recommendation for each patch.

              Hey when XO displays, I listen.

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              • olivierO
                olivier @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill ahahah 😄

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @olivier
                  last edited by

                  I guess Windows works the same way, but I've always been fearful not rebooting pretty quickly would lead to serious system problems.

                  Though I am guessing that rebooting pretty quickly after applying patches that require rebooting on XS is probably prudent. Still, I could install during the day and just reboot it at night.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                    I guess Windows works the same way, but I've always been fearful not rebooting pretty quickly would lead to serious system problems.

                    Though I am guessing that rebooting pretty quickly after applying patches that require rebooting on XS is probably prudent. Still, I could install during the day and just reboot it at night.

                    It's not really stability issues, it's that the updates don't take effect until you reboot.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      I happened to notice in XO the following...

                      (xo-web 4.16.1 - xo-server 4.17.0)

                      Should those be the same? I was pretty sure they were both the same the other day when I upgraded them.

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                      • DanpD
                        Danp @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill No, they can vary depending on the release schedule. My production server is currently (xo-web 4.16.0 - xo-server 4.17.0)

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Danp
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                          @Danp said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                          @BRRABill No, they can vary depending on the release schedule. My production server is currently (xo-web 4.16.0 - xo-server 4.17.0)

                          OK, I am set, then!

                          Also upgraded one server (of two) to XS7 tonight.

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                          • DanpD
                            Danp @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                            Also upgraded one server (of two) to XS7 tonight.

                            Just remember that migration from XS6 to XS7 is a one way operation.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Danp
                              last edited by

                              @Danp said

                              Just remember that migration from XS6 to XS7 is a one way operation.

                              Why would one ever want to go back?

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                              • DanpD
                                Danp @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill You wouldn't downgrade from XS7 to XS6. However, with one XS6 server and one XS7 server, I could seem someone wanting to migrate a VM between servers and not be able to if the VM resides on XS7.

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier
                                  last edited by olivier

                                  Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @olivier
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                                    @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                    Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

                                    But you can go the other way, thank goodness!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                      @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                      Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

                                      But you can go the other way, thank goodness!

                                      🙂 Would really suck if you couldn't. Nice that updating isn't too bad.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said

                                        🙂 Would really suck if you couldn't. Nice that updating isn't too bad.

                                        I was certainly happy to have XS installed on USB.

                                        I wonder what it would be like if XS is on the same disk/array as the SR.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          Has anyone ever done an upgrade to the same version?

                                          By that, I mean, installed, say XS7 over an existing XS7 install?

                                          I am thinking of doing that to test my "clone to a bigger USB" theory.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            Another question, this one more for general knowledge.

                                            If I were to clone the current boot USB, and then try this upgrade and it bombs, can I just go back to the cloned original setup?

                                            This is the kind of stuff that I don't think you can do, but then @scottalanmiller says ... "you are thinking windows ... Linux is just .... EASY"

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