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    Buffalo Terastation TS-RIX4.0/R5

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      So I have this older NAS which is coming out of rotation (within a day or so) and I want to re-purpose it. Adding in larger capacity drives 3TB and configuring it for RAID10.

      My google magic isn't producing much in terms of documentation on this unit. Clearly it's an iSCSI device, but I'd prefer to use it as an NFS or SMB share for the purposes I'm looking at. Which is to use as a primary backup target for my XenServer installation.

      Does anyone happen to know what this unit is capable of or have a specsheet?

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 http://www.buffalotech.com/content/files/products/TeraStation-III-iSCSI-Rack_DS.pdf

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        • brianlittlejohnB
          brianlittlejohn
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          The user manual is also on Buffalo's website. It looks like it is an ISCSI unit only.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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            @brianlittlejohn said:

            The user manual is also on Buffalo's website. It looks like it is an ISCSI unit only.

            I had no idea that Buffalo had a pure SAN unit. That's a good bit of reference material for all of those "that's a NAS, not a SAN, people."

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller I had no idea either.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by DustinB3403

                Well I don't think that will work then.

                Guess it's onto other plans.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I think that it is time for that stuff to get retired.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller Yep, looks that way.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      These days repurposing old hardware, especially storage, rarely has value.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        If I did want to use an ISCSI target Synology does have a pretty straight forward guide to setting it up.

                        In this setup, I'd have to build a backup VM on the ISCSI device directly. Which is far less than ideal.

                        if the device goes offline, I'd lose all backup capabilities until it's restored.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          If I did want to use an ISCSI target Synology does have a pretty straight forward guide to setting it up.

                          In this setup, I'd have to build a backup VM on the ISCSI device directly.

                          Yup, should work fine as long as the gear is still good.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            In this setup, I'd have to build a backup VM on the ISCSI device directly. Which is far less than ideal.

                            if the device goes offline, I'd lose all backup capabilities until it's restored.

                            Why would you have to create a VM on it directly? Sure it might not be good to ISCSI mount it to an existing VM, but it's definitely possible.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              This device can only be attached to XenServer as an ISCSI device, as DAS storage.

                              So with following best practice, and having XS run from a USB drive and then using the host or DAS storage for the working VM's. Meaning if the connection breaks between the host and the ISCSI device, you're VM's are down until it's repaired.

                              This isn't an ideal way of setting it up, and adds complexity for no gain.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                This device can only be attached to XenServer as an ISCSI device, as DAS storage.

                                DAS or SAN. XS can't tell.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  This device can only be attached to XenServer as an ISCSI device, as DAS storage.

                                  So with following best practice, and having XS run from a USB drive and then using the host or DAS storage for the working VM's. Meaning if the connection breaks between the host and the ISCSI device, you're VM's are down until it's repaired.

                                  This isn't an ideal way of setting it up, and adds complexity for no gain.

                                  How does ISCSI make any difference here? You were saying you wanted SMB/CIFS or NFS. If the network connection goes down, you still don't have access to your backups until you fix it. I don't see this as worse other than you have to have a VM for the connection.

                                  But instead of installing a VM on the iSCSI storage, you could install a VM on the XS other storage, then mount the Terastation via iSCSI inside that VM. The VM would run with the normal SR performance of the rest of the VMs, and only the backup storage would be running over the iSCSI connection.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Another way to look at this - you could get a two NIC Raspberry Pi, install Linux, one port to the Terastation (iSCSI) and the other to the network. Now you've just turned it into a NAS, assuming you've shared it with NFS or CIFS.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender That adds even more complexity to the setup though.

                                      And more Failure points.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        @Dashrender That adds even more complexity to the setup though.

                                        And more Failure points.

                                        Sure, the R-Pi does, but installing the VM on the main SR doesn't. The VM itself would only go down if the host goes down and wouldn't be affected by the network connection - but we're talking about backups.. so do we really care?

                                        As for the two ways to do it 1) mount iSCSI to XS directly, install VM on iSCSI device or 2) in VM on XS RS, mount ISCSI inside VM - does the performance difference matter here?

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          The performance of the Pi doesn't matter, but the complexity does.

                                          That simply is not a viable option in my opinion.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            The performance of the Pi doesn't matter, but the complexity does.

                                            That simply is not a viable option in my opinion.

                                            The second half of my previous post has nothing to do with a Pi. that would be option 3. And I agree, it's probably not with the hassle/complexity of bothering.

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